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Houston in retrospect would have been a mistake imagine been down the bottom and not even having drafted Langford and Lindsay

Sure but who was on the market, there is only a dozen key fwds worth there salt in the afl and none have been gettable. Look round nearly all key fwds need to be drafted only 2 high profile ones have changed clubs in the last 10 years and at huge cost to the clubs the got them. Probably the big miss was not getting hogan back but he was a gamble for gws and I dont think he left us on the best terms

Even if our top picks all work out our depth just isn’t there once our older players leave or retire, it’s going to be a long and painful 4-5 years at minimum

What is the point of continuing with goody now, we won’t be playing finals again the team has gone backwards again this year and every year since 2021. I remember vividly when we called time on Daniher everyone was sad but knew it was time with Goodwin I don’t think I will have any sadness just a question of why we didn’t do it sooner. Every year I feel more and more Goodwin got extremely lucky in 2021 that everything just came together and he was just a passenger, good coaches don’t have teams drop off a cliff like this when seemingly all the peaces are there.

Is Tom Fullerton a chance to debut soon 9 goals and counting in 3 games

Yep wouldn’t be looking at either to solve our issues, not sure there is really anyone on there list that I’d honestly want outside there untouchables in Charlie, Weitering and TDK

Don’t understand why anyone thinks they will respond differently after this weeks review than they did after the north loss, the only reason there is any hope of improvement is based on personal coming in, but the team as a whole is so far off in effort atm I’m not sure that it really helps. We may be 0-3 like Carlton but they are a team only a few changes away from turning it round, us on the other hand seem totally lost at sea.

Just not in the afl

Trac no Oliver yes, simply because Trac still has significant trade capital while Oliver doesn’t, Oliver would have to be traded out essentially for nothing due to his contract which I imagine clubs would ask us to pay a portion so not worth the effort. All of this based on the assumption we need to fast “trac” a rebuild

Might be a bit old school but Goodwin needs to send message by dropping a senior player or 2 to show they aren’t safe from the repercussions, think Trac, Oliver and Viney all need a rocket after last week so one of them should be sacrificed

Not sure who has had a chance to look at Kings analysis on first crack, but shows some damming vision of Trac Oliver and Viney just trailing Matt Rowell out of a clearance all the way down the ground where Rowell gets to the next contest to create an out number which results in Rowell getting a holding the ball free at the top of 50 where he then proceeds to hand it off to another unmanned player for an easy goal. Wouldn’t matter what tactics we have if our supposed 3 best mids are doing that we aren’t winning many games. They should honestly all be dropped to the VFL, no wonder Goodwin sent Trac Fwd it wasn’t to create a goal chance it was to hide him. Langford a first year player showed them all up why keep playing them when we have kids that will actually try

It will be the fastest path to a rebuild plus the danger of keeping players round who aren’t happy just creates even more issues. Best to move on those who don’t want to be there were reasonable trades can be done, we have seen multiple example of teams turning things round quickly in the last few years once the clubs stop been indecisive. The worst outcome in is do nothing and just waste more years with nothing to show for it

Trac and koz are the only players we have with trade value that aren’t kids, koz is gone in next few years alway so best to move him on now and get the more years into what ever kids we draft as a result, as to trac he will be 30 by the end of this year and what the point of having him run round for the next 3-4 years while we are down the bottom of the ladder when we could be get another few kids and games into them. Between Pickett and trac we should be able to get 4 picks in round 1 add them to the 4 first round picks in the last 2 years and you have nucleus of our next team to contend. Players like Gawn Viney lever, Langdon and Oliver will be there to see the next generation through.

I’ll try keep it positive great game by Langford, despite everything else going on today he never gave up and cracked in all day. If all our senior players could say the same we might not be in this predicament

Until now I’ve thought the players had Goodwins back even when we have been poor, this feels different. Looking at the players even in the first qtr the group as a whole just looked flat and already defeated

Time to bring the kids in, we already had a lot of high picks over the last few years so we have a head start all we have to do is get games into them, we should be looking at what trac and Pickett can bring in so we can get back into the draft, I don’t think any other senior players have have enough value to be worth the trouble

Someone needs to give goody the tap on the shoulder, also bring in the kids and see what we got for the rest of the year. This season is done, start working on what we can get for Trac and Pickett and anyone else that’s old enough to not be there after the next 3-4 years

All the signs of a team that will go through a full rebuild, reminds me of wc in 2022, lot of premiership players still there but fallen off badly

Players look like they want to crawl in a hole and die, we are on our knees waiting for gc to put us out of our misery

Going to need the extra tall vs gc, Howes won’t cut it

Anything but the blues

Sub will be out of melk and tmac you would think

Now McKay is out for personal reasons lucky the rumoured trade of Oliver for McKay never came to pass, we probably would have got the blame for it

Feel like it makes it even worse that we couldn’t even match them there, after watching the hawks and blues on Thursday just shows how far off we were, the hawks were over 220 across the game while blues were only a touch under 200 from memory

Well I think we have realised that we can’t play that style anymore but at the same time made long term commitments to players who are best suited to play that way and are now stuck in no man’s land until we can complete the transition which we started after the conclusion of 2023 and unfortunately it might be more painful than expected