Garbo

Wish it could be quantified beyond points against but seems more than a coincidence we concede less when he is down back with may and lever

Salem in the midfield love to see that continue, shocking he’s never had a run at it till now. Don’t like Tomlinson down back but maybe he allows may and lever to play there roles Schache as a fwd looked as good as I’ve seen, ruck not so much but I’ll take what I can get. Sparrow looks like he will go another level. Windsor looks like he will have an immediate impact so another good pick by the recruiting team.

So tmac played down back? Saw he was named on the bench for the main game

Sure going into 21 no one expected it but post has been a let down, dogs haven’t once finished top 4 under beverage in the home and away, no one could honestly think they should be a multi premiership team based on that, they probably have over achieved in even getting 1. This is about getting the most out of your self when you have the chance and in that regard this team has failed post 21

If we don’t win another it would be the biggest fail I’ve ever seen for a team to not follow up. Dogs 2016 doesn’t compare as that was out of nowhere, Wc 2018 and Cats 2022 were end of era flags. Pies 2010 and Bombers 2000 would come close but both were unlucky with there timing with Lions and Cats been the dominant teams of the era. These last 2 years were there for us to win if we didn’t fall on our face and our window might now be over. That or we were never that good to begin with and just got lucky

Hope he takes the AFL and Maynard to the cleaners, it won’t fix what happened but it’s the only way they can send a message this can’t be accepted

So everything is fine, anyone that isn’t onboard this train is just holding us back. We should just put the blinkers on and not question our reality or talk about the PR spin that comes from the club

Hard to unite behind the team when the more that is exposed the worse it gets. Without breaking any rules of this forum the club and most supporters collectively have their heads in the sand.

All signs seem to point to dees falling down the ladder this year, 1. We have many more injuries where as 21-22-23 we were much more injury free this time of year allowing us to start those seasons strong. 2. A number of players have signs they may by past there best, Fritsch, Salem ANB to name a few and no one is stepping up to take the slack. 3. How much petrol in the tank do Gawn and May have as they aren’t getting in younger. 4. Will Oliver get back to his best. I think we still play finals but I don’t think we will be serious contenders this year. Might just be best to look at this as a year of learning

Practice match or not i think we have gone backwards

Feels like Groundhog Day with all the fwds still injured, even if some get back for round 1 they going to be severely underdone. JVR going to need to do something special if we going to even match last year

Not a great draft but Pick 2 over Bont at 4 and Cripps 13, beside at time of draft I don’t think he was seem as an outside mid more as just all rounder mid, Windsor has been drafted specifically to play wing from the sound of it

I trust our recruiters as they have a very good strike rate, but my gut says you shouldn’t take small fwds or outside mids inside the first 10 and should be looking at an outside mid only with our with our 2nd pick. We should be looking for a Steven May replacement given Petty is also likely out in a year or 2 as well. Curtin seems like the ready made replacement and seems highly regarded or Caddy if we want more fwd options.

Mistake if we don’t take Curtain at 6 assuming he is still there, Leake should still be there 11 so no need to rush and take him early if we also want him. We are set for mids and they are easier to draft or trade for if we want another next year.

This years draft is quite weak after the first 10 by all reports, no way would it be worth giving up 3 first rounds picks to to effectively upgrade pick 6 to 3 those other picks aren’t worth a whole lot. Even if we won the flag next year 18 next year is worth more than 18 this year and we might finish significantly lower making the deal even worse. At best I’d think 6 and next years 1st for 3 would be sufficient.

I’d say best chance of getting pick 1 would be package up 6 and futures 1st for 3 and then trade 3 and 11 for 1

Going to fit right in with our dead eye forward line

Hawks still a few years off, this year is these lowest finish ever, I think ppl are under estimating how long there build will take, if they play finals inside next 3 years I’ll be surprised

2x pick 4 is better than 6 11 and 10-18 imo

Fact wc knocked back pick 4 from hawks and there first next year likely to be in the same range. I can’t see how our pick 6 and 11 this year plus our first next year would be enough.

He’s 28 yo player who lost his spot in a team who didn’t even make finals, I'm not sure why we are even going after him let alone trading a 2nd round pick, I suspect he would be delisted by crows as soon as he is out of contract. James Harmes is the same age and shown significantly more though out his career and yet we are happy to walk him out the door for effectively nothing.

Do we trade our or swans 2nd round pick for next year, who do we expect to finish higher

Think it’s more when cats and tigers and hawks needed big name players in there window they got them. Tigers and cat needed another key fwd got Lynch and Cameron, cats needed a mid got danger, hawks needed key backs got Lake and Frawley. Why are we unable to get a king or larkey like they would, even swans tried and failed for naughton. where it the story of us making a 10 year 12 mill offer for someone

Any idea who would be at 11 that wouldn’t be at 14 that we might want so bad, can only assume we trying to jump ahead of someone keen in the same player

If we end up using a later pick for someone else then we are idiots