Garbo

2 spots left in the 8 imo pies and gws, if we loose tomorrow pies go 10 points clear of us and effectively tie a spot up. Not too worried about the ins and outs but I would say on balance I’d rather be in our position than theres list wise right now. If we are real contender just to make the 8 a win tomorrow is a must.

Tmac now stays in playing the same role as last week, Maybe they can bring smith in to play fwd and relief ruck in place of Jackson? Or if Gawn is fit have him play fwd

I watched tmac closely tonight and although he ended up having an impact he looks so slow now, a number of times his direct opponent just ran past him even though he had position. Against better teams his direct opponent would end up tearing us a new one on the rebound, Melk can at least halve the contest and create a stoppage of nothing else. Fritsch other than kicking more points than goals is in great form right now I wouldn’t be swapping him for anyone

We tried that it didn’t work, unless tmac can play down back again or weid of Jackson go horribly out of form he goes straight out once gawn is fit

Changes should be easy enough Gawn and Viney in Tmac/Jackson(rest) and harmes/jones out I think Spargo, Rivers, Hannan and Sparrow all did enough to hold there spot

If Gawn is out then tmac stays in and him and jackson can share the ruck, not the worst time to give Gawn a rest anyway. I don't think he would have been the difference between winning and loosing this week anyway

13 inside 50s in the first qtr for no goals, 3 talls doesn’t work

Pack up and get ready for next week ?

Beaten in the middle and the contest, the difference in ability is clear. We won’t be winning this unless lions run out of steam

The adage what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger doesn’t apply in real life, make no mistake this is a disadvantage that has no upside.

This next 2 weeks (14 days) is a nightmare, from Sunday July 26 to this week to Sunday august 9 we play 4 games, which includes the top 2 teams

Every time I see Melksham I see Beavis

No change for me, specifically I'd leave Tmac out. I think Weid was more effective as the main target this week than tmac has been all year and Jackson is more effective as a 2nd ruck and for a big guy does a lot of pressure acts when he doesn't have the ball in hand, i noticed quite a few times Gawn stayed back for the intercept mark while Jackson rucked in the fwd line. While they are both playing well I'm happy to wait and let Tmac push his way back in as I dont think there is room for him without one going out

Pickett was never going to last till 28 dogs would have taken him with pick 15 if he even lasted till then. Agree Jackson is high risk high reward so we have to wait and see there. None of the other players that were in the pick 3 range have done anything yet anyway.

I'd question if you even need a pure fwd these days if all they do is kick 2 a week, Dan Menzel did that and look where he is at now. Now that there isn't 80 goal, let alone 100 goal players the key fwds need to do more than kick 2 week, some mids can nearly do as much all the while getting it near 30 times as well. If Weid is to survive he needs to be getting those 2 on average every game along with having a hand in a few more or getting up the field and being a link player on the wing, otherwise we may as well be playing another mid size player who has a more rounded game, ANB as much as he annoys me delivers as much round the goals right now and brings more to the table in other areas.

What are the rules about the number of players allowed in the hub, and if there is a limit isn’t that a huge disadvantage to the Victorian teams

Weid out (complete liability when not marking, which happens rarely) Brown or Jackson in Jetta out (unfortunately passed it, a first gamer tore him a new one) - Rivers back in

Problem is he is a complete liability if he doesn’t mark it. Whether that be following up the mark attempt with something on the ground or knocking it to advantage I don’t think I saw him do that once.

When is the last time we won any other way?

I just want to know why after fighting to get back in the game in q2 and shutting down cats chip and mark game we backed off in q3 and let them play that style again, only to shut to them down again in q4 and almost pinch it. If we just stuck to the way we played in q2 the game was ours. I can only think we wanted to win it our way rather than just win. We had the talent on the park to win today, I guess this evens out the blues win which we didn’t deserve

Without a crowd the game is completely unwatchable imo, absolutely hollow feeling for a neutral supporter. The AFL needs to pull the pin and just wait till crowds can come back. If that doesn’t happen this year so be it.

How many goals do they have between them I'd still call this a major point of weeknedss, personally I don't think any are at AFL standard currently in that position its just unproven potential

Much preferred Harmes when he was fwd of centre, back half does not work for him at all. I think ANB needs to make way for him

Plenty other others would have to go out before Jack was on the chopping block, he might not be the star we hopped but as a 3rd or 4th mid I think he can't be beat. Just needs to play within himself when it comes to kicking. Just to add Jones is 1 year from retirement and Brayshaw one knock away to. We don't have the depth people think

Problem is he might have to find a role outside the middle and still be effective, Our starting 3 mids will probably be Viney, Oliver and Petracca. Harmes and Brayshaw will probably only get a gig when one of them is resting