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So the fact pies only had 20 inside 50’s to half time had nothing to do with that, almost our whole list must be past there used by your logic. He has been one of these better players in the 2nd half of the year and would be a major asset in our fwd line over the likes of spargo or anb or anyone else you could mention

That’s just talk to get his price up

Frost is a liability, as long as he is in best 22 we aren't going anywhere. Not to say he isn't in our best 22 however, just that if he is we wont be challenging for a flag.

I remember watching him play a great game against us up in Canberra 2 years back, based on that I think he would be a great pickup, If it means one or both of the Wagners isn't playing it massive positive for to me

The group playing for most of this year is effectively the same group that got top 4 last year. Clearly there are other factors at play, like the horrible off season and harder draw, plus other teams chasing us not the other way round. Our core team is still extremely inexperienced both in age and games we just need more time.

I felt Jetta was on the decline even prior to his injury this year, I would be surprised if we went on after next year, we desperately need a small defender and a small fwd of quality

You release we had 6 years of year on year improvement until this year, a league record. It was inevitable we would take a step back

Jetta looks so far off atm, for a player who has been such a rock down back over the last 4 years or so it is disappointing. He looks slow and as such either giving away the free or just burned for pace, we basically playing a man down as a result. I know he isn't the only one down on form but we looked much better down back when he didn't play last week

Don't agree with Shultz on all points but we do agree on the main one, Spargo is not quick people seem to always equate small with fast. he isn't slow just average

Spargo offered nothing and was a late in for Lockhart anyway so that is the first charge I've been a supporter of Oscar for a long time thinking he just needed time, but last night he was diabolical, a witches hat would have been more effective. So for mine any one is an upgrade right now, Petty is the next KPD off the rack give him a few weeks till May is fit as he certainly can't be worse

I hope everyone that said Jones was done, think about this next time

Can we just celebrate the small victories we are no longer last on the ladder

The bigger story is how Melbourne was not found guilty of tanking and simply bringing the game into disrepute given the evidence at hand which the AFL had the whole time. Clearly there was and are bigger things at play. If they lied on this you can just imagine what went on with the Essendon drugs saga

Clark and bellchambers are both hopeless with the ball, let them play 2 like that if they want, it's to there own detriment

It all started in the middle, gawn, gus, oliver and harmes were all beaten by there direct opponents. Until this is rectified everything else is window dressing. Unfortunately there no easy fix for that as that is our A team for the foreseeable future, Viney and Vanders when fit will help. Maybe we could use Trac in the middle more in the mean time or Salem who seems to be up and about. May in should help specifically against Hawkins this week, KK, Stretch, and Wagner should all in consideration to come in for 1 or both of Viney and Spargo as both could use a spell

Time will be the proof if we got this one right, I felt we over paid for Melksham and Hibberd and let Watts go cheap at the time of those trades and am happy to say I have been proven wrong. I can only hope I feel the same about this in a year or 2. I would have liked to see us be involved in a few of these speculative trades like hawks have been with Scully or North with Hall

I don’t think he was going anywhere but dees this year, next year is debatable but unless he wants to come to dees for something other than a pay day he will still be there next year for us.

At a huge cost, if we don’t win we have basically thrown away a pick 6 or whatever we could have got next year to get May 1 year sooner

Neale wanted to go to lions and was a free agent next year and yet they got a better deal than us, dees caved, we could have got at least he same deal next year. Plus picked up May as a free agent. Maybe then we would have had ammo to target Kelly. We sold the farm to get May 1 year early. Unless we win the flag next year this was a nonsensical trade

Not the worst trade but surely we could have done something more creative and got pick 11 will a swap of later picks, would have been nice to see some high end talent come in from this draft

The way I look at it is if Hogan is going to be getting a million a year a freo then they can cough up 2 first round picks

Mahoney is on record just before the trade period started saying the plan was always to get May as a free agent next year, doing a trade for him this year was never the plan. If the deal can’t be done this year then the most likely scenario is we get him next year as a fa. The benefit of that is maybe we keep Hogan long term or if we do trade him then those picks can be used to fill another need.

Playing hogan in defence would make no sense, before the injury this year he was out number 1 fwd. It also ignores the fact the Tmac would go back if anyone was going to, he would obviously be the superior choice given he has played most of career down there. Whoever is report on this in media needs to check there sources and there common sense as someone is having them on. Also ignores the fact I think dees will find a way to get May regardless.

The issue is you need to give something to get something and we need a key back more than a 2nd string mid

Maybe the dees need to trade out a hunt, stretch or anb along with next years first to get the deal done