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Fawning, hero worship, call it what you like but as Nasher stated it gets tiresome week in week out. His racing commentary is pretty annoying also with his hero worship of Winx and Black Caviar. Not sure whether you can hero worship a horse. He is our best ever Athletics commentator but the Olympics are 4 yearly. I reckon he's a really nice guy, but as a commentator his time has come. Apart from his carry on over Buddy and Cyril, I get really annoyed by his mindless statistics all game. He used to do it at the tennis but that was only once a year. Yeah we know Bruce, you love reciting your stats but it is way over the top. Most of the time it is just mindless. As previously stated the standard of Australian sports commentary is very poor compared to European standards.

Josh may never be a star but in his first few games in 2017, he showed grit, determination, guts and a willingness to take the game on that suggested he could develop into a good defender. I prefer Josh over Corey but the two are tough hard players who relish the contest. I prefer players like the Wagners and Spargo who have a real crack every week over others who go missing in action. They may be depth but they are important depth.

exactly chook

He seems to do so every week, fawning over clubs and individuals. I thought he was barracking for Adelaide last week, or so it seemed. Is it our bias showing or does he simply like to back a winner ? His gushing carry on over Winx also annoys me. For Bruce, there are always special moments. On one occasion, when Buddy went near the ball Bruce almost wet himself with excitement. He is the best athletics commentator in the country and not bad with the nags, but his footy commentating has become excruciatingly.painful. However, it is his mindless recital of useless stats that really gets my goat.

Agree with your 3rd sentence. People are critical of Billy, but unlike others he has not been given many opportunities. Injury last year did not help. He needs to feel he is part of the team and not playing for a spot every week. He needs to build confidence and form.

Saty, I suspect that there will be many supporters not turning on whether they have made disparaging comments or not. Unfortunately, that is the nature of the beast, applying to all team based sport. Fans are fickle and they don't like watching or listening to their side losing after a succession of losses whether it be Melbourne or any side. Look how power sides like Hawthorn have a drop off of fans if their form is poor. Everyone wants to support and follow winners, and for the passionate, its personal.

Lets just say that the injury list is the worst in 4 years.

Blame Yahweh whether you are talking about Eve from The Book of Genesis or Eve, The American Rapper.

Depends on whose bed and in whose digs OD. Check in the bed and under it. Your sense of decency and piety may be disturbed. Bitters is just using a red herring referring to the Commos.

Hmmm. That's very descriptive. Like the Titanic our list undoubtedly has holes in it. Some of those holes are due to injury. AVB, May, Lever and the walking wounded TMac, Viney etc, and also those recovering from off season surgery. Will we see these players return to the team this season and/or be able to attain match fitness and form ? We desperately need them back but we need them fit and in form.

The result will not matter so much as the way we play. We can lose several more games and still make it, but how we play tonight and over the next few weeks will give us the answer.

True. Whatever happens, Preuss cannot be judged on one game alone, so I hope he is given a run of games to find his feet. I can never understand the point of dropping a player after one match.

But it’s important that you do your duty. Its your dharma. You will have a good afterlife where you will live a blissful eternal life unlike others on this site. And I am not thinking of you Bitters or Biffen. Well done dworship you get a VC for your sacrifice.

Yep, true. Patience is a virtue.

Of course part of the problem is that our anticipation and excitement was high because of last years 2 winning finals and the Demons were talked up by all over the summer. Wayne Carey is still a believer. Never thought I would say good for Wayne. So our excitement has been dashed on the rocks of our expectations. Or at least we were lulled into a false sense of security. I will try and take a leaf out of your book on positive thoughts and try and look at the whole show more constructively. During wartime, it looked likely that Germany would win both world wars but not to be. Our war has been going on a little longer which is another part of the problem. There are many of us who are running out of time to taste the victory champagne. It''s no longer character building to follow the Dees and accept defeat. Lets go Demons.

Good for you, you make some relevant comments. Positivity is a much better way to go. Its a long season.

Where you really thinking of watching the game? Go for a romantic candlelight dinner, nice music in the background, a very nice red (don't go for value forget the price), TV or mobile not close by. And don't check the result until next day.

If this is the case, Preuss will have decided that he joined the wrong club given all the pre-season hype about him forming a partnership with Max. He will be disappointed and frustrated.

The reason that the PF keeps getting mentioned is that it is the coach himself who said that he did not discuss the match with the players due to the fact that the result was due to the team not playing our brand of footy. Simply put, the defeat was due to the team not executing its game plan rather than our game plan being exploited. Many have quite justifiably questioned this assessment. In all matches this year, opposing coaches have done the same thing as the Eagles. Other factors may be at play as well such as 6/6/6, injuries, unavailability and poor form, but rightly the game plan is being seriously questioned and discussed. I agree that the final judgment will come at year end. Bagging individual players or the coach is poor form, but most posters have objectively tried to comment on what they have seen to-date. Some go overboard but that's human nature. Most of us were anticipating great things this year. Perhaps we had unrealistic expectations, but it is understandable that supporters are very disappointed with the results so far and the way we have played. And this website is a vehicle for comment and discussion.

We don't know the full story but if Goody and the coaches did not review the PF, it is quite remarkable. A little like a tech company (Microsoft or Apple) or any company for that matter not reviewing the reasons why a business or product has failed, and, just as importantly, not making any changes or not introducing a new, improved or better initiative Even more so, given the change of rules over the off season. Any individual or business that does not consider the impact of a change in tax rules or other external regulations, is, at very least, naive, and, at worst, stupid. You are heading for rocky shores if you are going to do the same thing knowing it has failed or knowing that the rules have changed in a way that will affect that past practice. I know many of you have said much the same, but, I still find it incomprehensible if true. And now 3 games in to the season, we appear to have a game plan that has failed in each game by varying degrees. So we will see a change or modifications made to address the problem? Despite form and injury problems, I find it difficult to blame the players who are simply trying to implement a game plan that looks by each passing week to be severely compromised.

Your a shocker BB

Sadly, I suspect that dropping any of the aforementioned players is not going to benefit anyone. It is what it is or they are what they are. Perhaps KK needs more games under his belt so perhaps he could do that at Casey. Unfortunately we have no one from Casey that is going to set the world on fire, and they are more likely than not to struggle. We have to wait and be patient. For what, for how long, who knows. This is looking like a long-term job just like the shock you get when that little reno on the house turns out to be a major rebuild because you discover the foundations, floors and walls have termites. .

Good comments. Hibberd may be down on form, but he is far from our worst and I have far more confidence in him than I do with his team mates.

With Demonland friends you don’t need enemies. I’m incredibly disappointed but posts on this site are appalling and reflect the worst aspects of social media. It’s a bloody game for Christ’s sake. Constructive comment, analysis and criticism is fine but personal attack on players is disgraceful. Sure express disappointment but save me on the vitriolic personal abuse. Your worst feelings should be kept to yourself. If you don’t want to support the side drop off and stop filling these pages with hate mail for the sense of common decency.

Oscar McDonald, what a disaster. Being totally dismantled.