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I’m a definite no on the best of 3 grand finals, but my stance on the MCG only grannies has softened. If grounds interstate can be brought up to standard (high capacity, facilities, etc) then it should change in the future.

Surely we’ve now all had the chance to respectfully bid “farewell to Jesse Hogan”. Time to close this thread and open up the “Jesse Hogan is a purple wearing bastard and I hope he fails” thread...

Some of that is a bit over the top... hopefully there’s more to his life than footy.

Anyone know what Lever's timeline is at this stage?? Any chance at all for the opening rounds?

No prizes for coming in January.

We tried to get him over from Adelaide at least twice. We may have gone past him now but he’d be an upgrade on JKH, Wagner and Stretch.

They’ve been trying to clean out the last few remaining blazers in the mid-year Demon Auction for the last few years...

Exactly. People get worked up over these drafts with the power of hindsight, but even Toumpas was a 'steal' at the time with him being a lock at pick two for the 18 months leading into that draft. These threads and articles are good for light debate and analysis, but it's completely pointless the way many people get worked up. Tyson has gone backwards but he was huge for us in 2014. Not only did he give us some hope going forward, he, along with Vince and Jones started giving us first use of the ball for the first time in close to a decade. Averaged over 25 disposals a game, kicked 16 goals and polled 11 Brownlow votes - he made an immediate impact. Kelly would have been knocked from pillar to post in his first three years with us.

Or... we should have still done the trade and taken Cripps.

It’s interesting to also note that Kelly was eligible for the mini-drat that netted us Hogan. He was thought to be at the time the third best prospect behind Jack Martin (clear no 1) and Jesse. Melbourne had a very good look at Kelly then, but chose Hogan.

It is what it is... I’m happy with Salem, Hunt and Preuss over Billings.

In fairness, Hawkins makes plenty more tackles than Menzel, despite having 10 cm and 10 kg on him. 2017: Menzel- 26 tackles from 19 games Hawkins- 61 tackles from 22 games 2018: Menzel- 14 tackles from 13 games Hawkins - 40 tackles from 21 games He'd be in competition with players like ANB (118 tackles), Spargo (55 tackles) Petracca (73 tackles) and Melksham (44 tackles)

What’s knock on him?? He was lighting it up in the last third of 2017 kicking 16 goals in 5 matches, including the granny.

Someone could have collected Neville Jetta as a delisted free agent prior to us Rookie Listing him... that’s a scary thought.

Some decent veterans there, such as Daniel Cross and James Kelly. Simpkin got a premiership with the Hawks and Hambling for the Bullies. Membrey was a good pick-up for the Saints, as was Robinson for Brissy and Barlow offered something for the GC. After that... the cupboard is a bit bare... 2012: Jonathan Simpkin 1 November 2012 Delisted Geelong Hawthorn None [22] Tom Gillies 13 November 2012 Delisted Geelong Melbourne None [23] Dylan Roberton 30 November 2012 Delisted Fremantle St Kilda None [24] Nick Lower 3 December 2012 Delisted Fremantle Western Bulldogs None 2013: Daniel Cross 1 November Delisted Western Bulldogs Melbourne [9] Jeremy Laidler 1 November Delisted Carlton Sydney [9] Luke McGuane 4 November Delisted Richmond Brisbane Lions [10] Dylan Addison 7 November Delisted Western Bulldogs Greater Western Sydney [11] Tony Armstrong 7 November Delisted Sydney Collingwood [11] Robin Nahas 8 November Delisted Richmond North Melbourne [11] Aidan Riley 11 November Delisted Adelaide Melbourne [12] Tom Derickx 18 November Delisted Richmond Sydney [13] 2014: Taylor Hunt 2 November 2014 Delisted Geelong Richmond None [11][12] Tim Membrey 5 November 2014 Delisted Sydney St Kilda None [13] Joel Hamling 2 November 2014 Delisted Geelong Western Bulldogs None [14] Sam Blease 3 November 2014 Delisted Melbourne Geelong None [15] Mitch Robinson 3 November 2014 Delisted Carlton Brisbane Lions None [16] Ben Newton 5 November 2014 Delisted Port Adelaide Melbourne None [17] Matthew [censored] 5 November 2014 Delisted Sydney Carlton None [18] 2015: Andrew Moore 6 November 2015 Delisted Port Adelaide Richmond None [8] Jarrad Grant 6 November 2015 Delisted Western Bulldogs Gold Coast None [9] Daniel Gorringe 9 November 2015 Delisted Gold Coast Carlton None [10] Matthew Wright 26 November 2015 Delisted Adelaide Carlton None [11] 2016: James Kelly 4 November 2016 Delisted Essendon Essendon N/A [52] Matt Dea 4 November 2016 Delisted Essendon Essendon N/A [52] Michael Barlow 8 November 2016 Delisted Fremantle Gold Coast N/A [53] Ricky Henderson 8 November 2016 Delisted Adelaide Hawthorn N/A [54] Josh Green 15 November 2016 Delisted Brisbane Lions Essendon N/A [55] 2017: Alex Morgan 1 November 2017 Delisted Essendon North Melbourne N/A [46] Aaron Mullett 1 November 2017 Delisted North Melbourne Carlton N/A [47] Lachlan Keeffe 2 November 2017 Delisted Collingwood Greater Western Sydney N/A [48] Trent McKenzie 2 November 2017 Delisted Gold Coast Port Adelaide N/A [49] Jack Trengove 3 November 2017 Delisted Melbourne Port Adelaide N/A [50]

2010 , 2011 and 2012 I believe.

He'll be entering his 10th year on a senior list. With his injury issues, this is a testament to his character that clubs have wanted to retain him for this long with such uncertainty over his body and fitness.

I used to get played at full back a lot when I was a kid and got a bit down on myself thinking it was ‘boring’ and negative. Sean Wight 1994 changed all of that with his desperate tackles, smothers and spoils that would send the ball 50m up the ground.

Would have to be the laziest player in the league. Gets plenty of cheapies over the back because he doesn’t press or follow his man. Two years in a row geelong have tried to palm him off. With that said, he always seems to pop-up for a good match against us. I’d draft him just so he doesn’t play against us again.

I take this year for KK with a grain of salt and compare it to Brayshaw 2016-17. He was coming from a long, long way back with his concussion issues. Hopefully a preseason, some good advice, technique change and some confidence will see him back to his best - like Gus 2018.

In my heart of hearts I never really got too attached to Jesse, hence his departure has left me feeling a bit... meh. I took the Scully departure very, very hard and the sight of his malnourished face still makes me clench my fists, but with Jesse, this always felt somewhat inevitable. I feel sorry for the kids with the number one on their guernseys, who are probably experiencing their first taste of the tragedy of a beloved player departing the club, but it's great to see May and KK already making statements about their excitement to be joining the team. I don't wish him ill (Scully, Howe, Frawley), but then again, I also don't wish him all the best (Trengove, Watts, Tyson). He's just another player in purple now.

Salem has a very, very high ceiling and has only shown a glimpse of what he is capable of. Hopefully he is able to hit the preseason healthy, fit and full of confidence.

I don’t see the need to play 3 genuine talks. TMac and Weid along with a range of mediums and smalls is more than enough. In fact, it’s the structure we successfully employed after the Sydney match and kicked a winning score against West Coast, GWS, Geelong and Hawthorn.

And when they said no..?

Maybe have our eyes on a DFA..?