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Or hoist on one's own petard.

Few posters have contributed as much bile and as little value as DF in such a short time. You're not making yourself popular DF, I know leave it to the mods, they are already watching and removing his rubbish. PS: I did not know that SWYL had sucking lemons, what does he do with them?.

You're generous.

I agree, Jesse will be the better for it. It's a shame he has to take the best defender each week, plus having Freo dropping a player back in front of him. Jesse is a winner.

ET, I think the best person to defend Jack Watts is Jack Watts. He needs to come out and play some blinders. Then I will defend him, but until then I will become silent. (maybe).

Yes that is depressing.

I think Hawthorn were also knocking on the door.Perhaps he would have been a multi premiership player had it not been for us?

In defence of Jack Watts.................... na, I've got nothing.

Hypocrisy anyone? Edit: I have had the misfortune to read two of Demonic Faves three posts. In both he called a d/lander a mofo. Yes I hope the mods do something.

Oh, so you are a mod? This is a fan site, we talk footy, we often have a dig at each other that is fine by me but to launch in to calling another poster a fat MoFo, please.

Jordie will give 100%. He will do the job asked of him, he will not do it with outstanding skills. Funny that we pillory Watts for not having a go and McKenzie cops it for having a go with little skill. Who would you rather? McKenzie is worth a shot considering the alternatives.

Go figure, Watts selected again. Those coaches obviously don't read the luminaries at demonland. Or maybe they know more about football than the posers here. Edit Typo - should read posters but I like posers so it stays.

Clearances, Gold Coast Suns 2 Adelaide Crows 2 Sydney Swans 4 Carlton 5 Hawthorn 6 GWS Giants 7 Melbourne Contested possessions, Collingwood 2 Melbourne 3 Adelaide Crows 4 Gold Coast Suns 5 St Kilda 6 Hawthorn 7 Carlton So according to you Gold Coast or Carlton should be on top of the ladder. Now what was your point? http://www.afl.com.au/stats Edit: the bottom 4 for Cont Poss- Freo - Port - WCE - Gee The bottom 4 for Clearances - North - Bris -Ess - Gee Lies damn lies and statistics!

Look I don't know why I am even arguing this as I would prefer the hard players myself. As for netball its has a higher rate of injury than AFL but below NRL and NRU

SPR Reductio ad absurdum does not help your argument. My uncle smoked until he was 90 and then tripped on a barbell and died from complications does not mean that exercise kills and smoking is healthy. Because a player rarely misses a game (Stynes or N Jones) does not mean they must be soft, that argument is absurd. My point is that there are a lot of players (most clubs) who lose many games to top players from impact injuries. Like (Ablett, Chapman, Lonergan, Harbrow Wallis) to name a few. To say that the foot injuries to Clark were not from an awkward landing after crashing a pack is ignoring the facts. Viney's broken leg did not come from soft play. To play well first you must play.

Hard at it players, Viney, Trengove, (Mitch Clark) miss many games through injury. How useful are they injured? How many does Watts miss?

Hands up all those posters that know more about football than Paul Roos. The rest of you should see who gets picked every week and who gets dropped. If Roos picks Watts then he is in the best 22. All the speculation and comparisons in the world mean stuff all, if he is picked Roos rates him. Sure he could be better, so could the skipper, they could all be better. Those with your hands up why do you think Roos plays Watts?

You're funny Frosty.

Cards, I think you are right, there is a lot more money in cricket. Look at what they can make in a few months in the IPL. There would be many more millionaire cricketers than footballers http://www.brw.com.au/p/business/australian_cricketers_cashing_league_YcX1hpVDOp15VdWonORU0L How many AFL footballers earned $4.5 million dollars last year? http://www.cricket.com.au/news/australian-cricketers-on-brw-rich-list-watson-johson-clarke-warner-smith-faulkner-maxwell/2015-02-17 12 cricketers in Australia's top earning 50 sportspeople. One footballer. http://www.brw.com.au/p/business/brw_top_sports_earners_list_for_6VLF7mok4PMxzOxHAMb9KK . Edit: typos & I misunderstood what Cards was saying

We have done well with rookies called Aaron. 2003 Aaron Davey, remember him. Edit_ Typo

DC you seem to know a lot about 3AW personnel, any connection.

I had to search that one, I do not remember him, and he played for us for 5 years, they were not memorable years.

Or should that be Dr Whom?

With your vast footy knowledge I am surprised you don't coach Melbourne. You could be the new Mark Neeld. In the mean time I am glad Roos is the coach and you are just another poster.

How can you take a mark with your eyes closed? Oh that's right we spend about 10% of our waking hours with our eyes closed. 15-20 times per minute we blink. So it is possible with fast shutter speeds that he is blinking, I wonder if Jack Watts does that?