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EFC legal team.

Trying out for the other two positions.

Richard Young practicing for EFC.

DP I reconsidered and removed my post. It is a lie to say that they have been found innocent. Their not guilty status is temporary. Hird took full responsibility and then denied any wrong doing. To say that they do not know what the players were given but it was not illegal and was good for them is an insult to the intelligence. They are a blight on all Australian sports and sports people. Serious penalties need to be meted out and now I have no doubt that they will.

Oh and by the way Eddie, those two naughty Collingwood boys do they have passports, we may need to see them in Switzerland. And you too, two players from one team if you know what I mean.

Bec Wilson stands by story. Rebecca Wilson from the Daily Telegraph emphatically stands by the story she wrote on the weekend regarding WADA’s decision to take the case against the Essendon 34 to the Court of Arbitration for Sport. She is adamant that all her assertions regarding the case are factual and that this hearing will be significantly different to the one that went before the AFL anti-doping tribunal. “I received a huge reaction, and the usual polarising reaction where I think around 75% of people had agreed with what I had said,” said Wilson on SEN radio. “Some didn’t and then there’s that small element that are so abusive and full of vile (comments).” Former Essendon player Tim Watson and ex-ASADA chairman Richard Ings were very critical of Wilson’s piece that suggested the Bombers ought to be worried that the case was going to CAS. “As much as we all respect Tim Watson, let’s face it he has a deeply vested interest in not seeing this case go to the Court of Arbitration for Sport,” she said. “Everyone at Essendon wants this thing shut down.” Wilson strongly denies anything in her story is factually incorrect and insists Ings has an agenda to undermine the anti-doping agencies. “Of course CAS has to prove it... My point is this, the individual’s responsibility lies with the athlete about what he or she puts into their body,” she explained. “If you have a look at the charter of the CAS you will see that every athlete will get a fair hearing but they will also have an onus of responsibility to prove that they are not guilty. “Every time I write the words Essendon, Dank, ASADA or WADA four senior defamation lawyers look at my copy. “And each of them cleared that copy without one change on the weekend.” Ings responded to Wilson's interview saying his role in this is to only ensure that the media properly report the ongoing saga. "It's nothing personal, my motivation throughout this entire 830-odd days is to ensure that the media cover these complicated issues correctly," he said on SEN radio. "The first of several errors that Bec made is that there are no signed affidavits from these witnesses... WADA may try to introduce transcripts of interviews with CAS and what you might find is that WADA goes back to the Supreme Court to compel these individuals to attend." Wilson was disappointed with some of the backlash she received after publishing the article, pointing out that another not guilty verdict would not upset her. “All I want to do is seek the truth and if that turns out to be each of the 34 players being completely exonerated then so be it, and we all move on,” said Wilson. “The scornful attitude towards ASADA, WADA, the AFL and people like me is wrong.” http://www.sen.com.au/news/05-15/bec-wilson-stands-by-story-critics-have-vested-interest

Patrick Smith slams Alan & James Hird for gibberish. Essendon coach James Hird, along with his father Allan, have each been accused by Patrick Smith of using utter gibberish when talking about the supplements saga. Hird leapt to his son’s defence over the weekend and proclaimed that the decision by WADA to take the case against the Essendon 34 to CAS was cowardly. Furthermore, he launched attacks on ASADA and called for Parliament to restore the rights of the players involved. “It’s a first today that a family has won Gibberish of the Week,” said Smith on SEN radio. “Allan’s letter is just a rant, it’s not based on any fact at all. “To say the Bombers were denied to right to participate in the 2013 finals was the work of ASADA is completely wrong – that was a matter of governance.” James Hird was also on the front foot when talking on Crunch Time over the weekend, revealing more of his personal views on the whole saga than ever before. He accused the media of distorting the truth to suit their own agenda because they have always believed the players were guilty. “I think that’s gibberish of the highest order because I don’t know that James could point to the manipulation of the truth by the media,” explained Smith. “Everyone in the media has always argued that the biggest victims in this, and the one’s who have everybody’s sympathy, are the players.” http://www.sen.com.au/news/05-15/patrick-smith-slams-james-allan-hird-for-gibberish

Could this be a bargaining chip? We will hold the trial in Australia but only under Swiss law. Is that possible? Swiss Embassy?

Get your boarding pass ready.

James this morning after hearing the news.

Might be time to give James a push.

Collingwood went for Quentin Lynch to replace Dawes, I don't think they are really laughing.

When was the last time anyone unwittingly took methadone for back pain? Ryan Crowley, must have been to see Mr Charters. http://www.theage.com.au/afl/fremantle-tagger-ryan-crowley-unwittingly-took-methadone-for-back-pain-20150519-gh5a9q.html

Wayne, Wayne, Wayne this is like trying to find diamonds in pig shyt. Mainly pig shyt to date. Schweler, what does that mean? I tried a google search the best I could come up with schweler=wayne. "Need more harden players?" Edit

EFC- Who do we own, no who do we know in Switzerland? What do you mean only the bank manager! Were farked! Lawyers- Fail Money - Fail Guns? Get that fark Hird on the phone.

Out: Salem, Tyson (inj), Stretch, Jimmy T, Dawes Spencer In: Hogan, Newton, Riley, McKenzie, Gawn, Watts B: McKenzie Dunn Garland HB: Lumumba T.Mac Grimes C: Newton Riley vandenBurg HF: Watts Hogan Cross F: Vince Gawn Garlett Ru: Pedersen Brayshaw N.Jones Int: M.Jones, Michie, Bail, Howe (sub) Maybe worth trying Pedersen as first ruck & Gawn at FF - if weather is good. Sorry Watts you are needed.

There is a clue in what gamblers are known as. Punter:- Someone who is ill-informed and liable to be taken advantage of. A sucker who lacks inside knowledge or savvy. Edit :fix typo

Like greyhound racing!

His father did not like Daniher, to do with playing him even when he was injured.

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I think Spencer will go alright against Hale. Like you I would prefer Gawn though. I seriously think they are still vulnerable.

Sorry for derailing the topic and constantly whingeing.

Check it out, there is an entire thread devoted to complaining about Jack Watts

Please use this.