Red and Blue realist

This has given me a lot more hope in chasing Brown, I wasn't really sold on the idea until reading through it. Our set shot accuracy has always been an issue and when it was fixed in 2018, mainly by TMac, we played finals. No point being dominate at clearances and contested possession if we are one of the worst at converting. I know Fritta had a shocker this year, but his action makes me think this will come good, Weid is a great kick and LJ looks like he kicks it easy as well. If our main marking targets can increase their goal kicking efficiency and we maintain our ability to restrict teams entering their 50 (we had the lowest number of inside 50s against), then it should in theory help in 2 ways, the obvious is more goals kicked but should help to decrease the amount of goals scored against from a rebound from our 50. This is one area I can see that will help us move up the ladder very quickly. Plus, it would make the Simpsons guernseys even better if Brown (aka sideshow Bob) was actually on our team: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-the-simpsons-themed-afl-guernseys-designs-every-clubs-jersey-with-the-simpsons-crossover/news-story/cb0ec7c3f72fded50e71b06775f101dd

I don't mind Smith in defence at all, but he needs to be given specific jobs on the right sort of player. He's done pretty well this year on danger, Martin and papely and beat Cameron, although he didn't look interested. The issue is Martin and danger are only part time forwards, so for Smith to become really valuable he has to be able to have a role all game in defence, not just when the power athletes drift down there. He's ok if he gets taken to the ball but isn't a natural follower of the game, if he can improve that then he's got a role to play most weeks

Don't think the dogs will offer up anything this year, they need all the points they can get, might even end up being a 2nd round next year and we give them Hannan and 62 & 63 this year, so ends up being around a 3rd rounder but they get extra points this year and we get the better pick next year.

haha, I liked that 4 team trade. They also quote the in the know posters who told them last year the papely was a done deal, they were splitting their picks sending one for papley, one for Martin but also got the hawks 1st this year.

Back and hamstring injuries over the last 2 seasons (plus a hand one as well), but given he's only played 18 games in a season once there's a big element of risk, and he signed a contract extension after starting the 2018 season on fire he wouldn't be on a small contract. I can see why the saints want him out and he might be a cheap trade, but the contract might be preventative, unless they pay some.

For some reason the Saints seem to think they are in win now mode, but I'm not convinced their list actually allows for that. Steele had an amazing year, and Marshall, Billings, Clark, Gresham, King and Coffield will all be really good players, but their older players in Hannebery, Ryder, Ross, Carlise and Hill have all past their best and don't have the class to carry them to far. Crouch doesn't add much either - although their end of season trips would be massive with Crouch, Hannebury and Carlise! Them overpaying for Hill, Crouch, Ryder and Hannebery ensures their likely to stay in that 5-10 range, but I don't see that they'll challenge seriously because there list is too unbalanced between those under 25 and those very close to the end.

We only passed on him 3 times, he was the 4th pick for Freo, so they also passed on him 3 times. GWS had 11 picks before Neale, while Brissy and the dogs had 4 picks, The cats, tigers, port, hawks all had 3 picks before Neale went as well. I look forward to the follow up article with all their recruiting managers as well.

C'mon, seriously! Viney was at the SA count, hard to sit with the other Dees when you're in a different state (as you seem to not know he was there for a wedding, and there was a heap of other players beyond the SA clubs as well). From the little I saw Clarry and Max both seemed to be laughing whenever they were shown.

I'd say it's all around how his salary is managed for the cap. He might have agreed to a payout from the club of say $100k which is all that will be counted in the cap but if he were let go from the list then his full salary, maybe say $400k would have been counted, so it'd be a cost saving measure - I have no idea about figures so don't quote me! but I'm guessing they'll keep him on the list then once lists are finalised then he'll retire, and we'd be hopeful they might allow a top up like how we got Bennell/Brown or even a mid season draft.

Who to believe out of Tony Sheehan or Peter Ryan? One is a proven liar, been called an unmitigated [censored] by a club president, had Sam Newman call him a piece of s%*t on national TV and is generally hated by everyone involved with footy, while the other one is Peter Ryan.

Sorry hadn't seen that Morris report, just head what he, Eddie and his management had said earlier in the week.

Why start a thread on this? Everyone knows his wife is moving to Queensland to continue her netball career. If anywhere Treloar will move the Suns, we a 0% chance, along with all other Vic teams, SA or WA teams. So he'll either stay for 12 months then move (if she gets another contract there) or move to the Suns this year.

Really tragic news for them, having been through this twice myself (well my wife) I know this happens so much more than is widely reported, so I respect how brave they were to put themselves in the spotlight and hope they are getting all the support they want and need.

I don't think the AFL are profiting from this at all, Rebel are getting some publicity out of it though.

Straight swap for Phillips could be on the cards, both go into the trade period with reasonable contracts hanging over their heads and it's known that the pies want a more mobile forward and we're after a wing. So both cover a need for the respective clubs, while costings shouldn't be too much of an issue. Both have a few question marks hanging over them, but if they are able to get sorted could end up being a classic win-win trade.

In reality this has been a pretty good marketing move by Rebel, a $100k drop on normal market wouldn't have reached anywhere near as far as what this stunt has. While not everyone will like it, it's gotten air-time on national TV, made all the major newspapers and got people on these sort of forums talking about it. Plus there's without a doubt the commentators will get all nuffy about it on grand final day so they'll get huge exposure at one of the most watched TV event so the year.

I know the clubs are expecting all expecting a 30% cut across all pay for admin based roles - those that survive, one person in a management role (at another club) told me it was like moving back to where they were 10 years ago, with people doing extra work that in the last few years they would have just gone and got a few extra staff in for. The whole industry ballooned out massively - as we've seen with the reports of how many staff are at headquarters. So there's a fair chance that if all admin staff are taking a massive hit and this has gone into the footy departments as well, then the players are going to be forced into a big cut as well. The AFLPA are fully entitled to try and maximise their returns for players, but there going to have to come back to reality a little.

Not going to turn a tribute to Dunn into a slanging match, but Oscar and Frost both were the beneficiaries of Dunn being moved firstly to Casey and then off the list, they then became the pillars of defense in the run to the 2018 prelims. Roos held Dunn out for all but 4 games in the 2016 season, which is why he decided to look for more senior opportunities, so not sure how Goodwin can get any blame for that - but the narrative around here at the moment is to blame him for everything so I'm sure you won't see that reasoning.

Let's not re-write history just to have a crack at Goodwin, he was barely played in Roos's last year with us, because Roos wanted to bring through the younger guys down back. From what I understand there was no animosity whatsoever, he just wanted to go somewhere where he might get some games and the pies had just lost a number of key backs.

I'd love a straight swap with O'Halloran, I think he'd complement our midfield pretty well and they are probably close to the same value on the open market, we'd save a bit of cap space as well.

Don't think Gus has been able to do this over the last 2 years due to injury, but yeah him and his brothers do this every Christmas day, not sure if his foot injury will be healed enough by then, but I think he's one that really needs a full pre-season to perform his best, hopefully he's back running fully really soon.

More than happy to have him on board if he's deemed worthy, I don't think we're going down the Essendon path of getting ex-players into roles to appease the masses. Yze is very highly rated and if the board think Green is the right person then I'm sure he is.

Does everyone who's saying it'd be good to have an ex-footballer on the board understand that Bartlett played for West Coast? While he was no champion player, he at least played at the highest level and had a pretty long career at WAFL level before becoming a lawyer. The board doesn't need to be made up of ex-players, unless they also bring board level skills with them.

The guy played 130 odd games for us, more than for the Hawks. It's the classy thing to so, snipping at a guy who gave us pretty good service while he was here is not a good look.

A year longer than the 2 years the Hawks have in front of him? Surely we're not offering him a contract to play until he's nearly 35, even as a UFA, everyone could see his running capacity already looked down this year. I'm also not sure he's a natural leader either, clearly the likes of Hodge, Mitchell, Roughy and Lewis were but he's not in their league