Red and Blue realist

They have a shop in Ballarat, which has a 8 meter bulldog that lights up at night, but out of the back of this they run a huge amount of community programs - mens health etc. Brett Goodes (ex player and Adam's brother) used to operate out of there for the Dogs and was always welcoming and friendly.

Will WA change some restrictions to regional Victorians now the lockdowns have eased - not saying that people from regional areas will be able to get over for a grand final (if we make it), but what if we asked if Jonesy could come back to Vic and have his family relocate to Geelong, Ballarat or Bendigo to have their babies? Then him might be able to travel a little freely - maybe only a few days quarantine rather than a full 2 weeks?

This is correct, although can sometimes be a bit of a misleading stat, for instance if Jones and Hibberd played it changes our dynamic significantly. However, the 6 oldest players on our list didn't play and we've got a total of 8 players who've played 150 games or more and only 3 were in Saturday's team. The dogs had 8 of their 10 players with over 150 games play and the Bombers had 5 of 8. So in comparison to the other teams around our age and experience it seems like we're a bit more even below our older guys. Good reason to believe we'll be competitive for some time. The Cats have 14 players over 150 games, and all of them played on the weekend, that suggests the cliff is coming very fast for them. I used that 150 game threshold as generally most guys are at least 28 before they get there.

I think Rich is the most important player to put time into this week, he gives them so much drive out of the backline, Birchall has become a chipper rather than long kicker and we play much better when we're forcing teams to go short and slow. Sparrow was very good overhead and matches Rich for height so I'd give him first go, but could understand if they brought Melksham in to do a tagging role, he's done it before in the forward line and the defender can't leave him alone because he'll kick goals. I think there'll be no changes, but I'd wonder if they contemplate shutting down Rich.

Don't forget Wines, he'll poll as well against the Blues, and not convinced Oliver will have against the Crows (maybe he'll get 1 or 2 from either/both of the coaches but not much more). Bont might end up with a couple of votes as well. Think if one of Oliver or Bont scores the 10 this week they'll take it out.

It looked to me that both Hibberd and Melksham were playing for their spots and were trying to hard. Hibbo, nearly took out Smith early in the 3rd and was directly involved in 3 of those 4 goals they kicked quickly at the start of the 4th, the Murphy goal he was his direct opponent but then dropped out the back of the pack by 3 or 4 meters which enabled the quick snap goal. It looked to me that he dropped back hoping to be feed the ball so he could move it out of defense rather than stay closer so he could impact his opponent if he got the ball. I think if Rohan comes back Smith would be the much better match up. So I'd go: May, Viney and TMac in for Hibberd, Melksham and Sparrow.

I think bringing Hibberd back in without the chance to regain touch could be worse, he was so bad those last few games and looked so low on confidence that it would be better (IMO) to send him to a scratch match (no Casey unfortunately) to get some easy touches and then bring him back in when he's right. Bowey has been fantastic since he's come in because he's been so clean, he's really taken Hibbo role.

I suggested last week that we don't take him on the plane with a back injury, so no hindsight, just turned out to be one of the few errors the FD have made this year. He might have seemed right, and wanted to keep him with the rehab staff, but at the end of the day it looks like it's going to cost him at least 2 matches out of the team.

Hopefully it shows they are confident it is just a minor issue, but sitting on a plane for 7 hours, playing then jumping on a plane for 4 more hours the next day and I'm surprised there weren't a few more injuries. The club must have thought their medical guys were better equipped to take care of him over there? And maybe he's closer to being right than they are letting on, but now we have top 4 guaranteed they are being super cautious.

Shouldn't have gone to Perth, one of the rare mistakes the FD has made this year. I'd bring in Weid and Smith this week, with AVB and Hunt going out, with JJ back to the sub role, just to give Sparrow 1 more week of full game time and then plan to swap them over next week.

I actually think Hibberd would be better served with a scratch match than a top level game. He was incredibly fumbley in his last few games, so going back with a little less pressure to find touch I think would serve him better than maybe increasing the need to perform. Get him back in the team with confidence as he was finding the ball ok, just then either fumbled or used it badly. I'd give Smith a go off half back as some have mentioned, to see how he goes when he's not trying to be a key defender.

There have been scratch matches going on, but it seems from all clubs the reporting has ben very low key this year. You only hear about a big name coming back from injury, but they have been going on.

Ideally we finish 1st and they finish 4th or we finish 2nd and they 3rd, they way we know all our finals will be in Melbourne - if they are even played here?? Finish 1/3 or 2/4 and if we lose the first week there is the possibility of playing them in Adelaide in a prelim.

Dean Margetts just retired from West Coast - https://www.afl.com.au/news/662950/statement-afl-umpire-dean-margetts-announces-retirement

Not officially yet, but why in the world would they risk him? We're guaranteed to finish top 4 it's smart to rest anyone with soreness or injury concerns. At least save them for Geelong who were likely to play first week of finals as well.

I can't see us making any big moves this offseason, but doesn't mean it still can't be productive. I wouldn't mind if they went for a little more mature depth, we've got 5 guys who'll finish the season over 30, and I think only 1 will definately stay (hibbo - maybe daw as backup). While I think our leadership is pretty good and getting better, if we can grab a couple of guys that could play a role in the seniors if required but are generally good role models, I think that would help. Guys like Hamish Hartlett, Tom Lynch (Adel) etc. would come cheap, both in salary and because we could get them as free agents or very late trades.

He hasn't ben anywhere near Cal's draft lists, and I can't find him rated in the top 2 rounds for any of the big footy drafts, of course they can change now he's had a little exposure, but he's not going to an early pick but looks very consistent when you look at his game stats (I haven't seen him play so can't speak to how he actually looks).

No, we need more than that, West Coast also had Embley, Chick, Braun, Banfield etc. So a good mix of at least 7 or 8 who can roll through the middle at various times. All great sides have more then just 2 or 3 great mids, they have have at least 7 or 8 guys per game who can at any time go into the midfield mix, I think between Trax, Clarry, Viney, Harmes, Gus, JJ, Sparrow, Kossie, ANB, Langdon, Salem and Rivers we've got a pretty good mix to throw in, with Trac and Oliver as the mainstays.

Haven't seen him to high on any mock draft boards, so hopefully we might even be able to get him in the rookie draft, or at a minimum will be matching very late if we choose too.

The revenue per member ladder would be very very interesting, not that you can blame some clubs for being creative, but I think that ladder would tell a very different story for a few clubs (St.K, Carlton and GWS in particular).

If the incident was half as bad as some here are making out, why didn't the umpire - who was all of about 3 meters away - do something about it? No free kick, just told them to stop wrestling. Given Collins has around 10cms and 15kg on Viney, if it was that bad he would have tried to push him off, not held onto him the whole time - look at where Collins grabbed Viney's jumper, which actually locks Viney's arm into position, his only other option would be to fall flat on top of him.

Not sure how they can come up with a grading of serious misconduct without the hint of an injury? It's not a great look at all, but it seems like another decision the MRO is scared to actually make a judgement so they've passed the buck

Spot on, supporters are too quick to jump off players, most would have had TMac gone at the end of last year, Jones wouldn't have played 100 games if you listened to supporters early on! Or are they more subjective than the ordinary supporter who has a preconceived bias that magnifies any mistake/error a player makes? Where a supporter highlights the miss-kick or holding the ball decision, is the reporter seeing the things the player does well and the contribution to the team - not just the mistake?

Funny how preconceived ideas form the basis of a lot of people's changes, although I haven't seen 1 call for ANB to be dropped this week (so far), so that's refreshing. Both the HS and Age had Harmes in the best, yet around half the calls on here have been for him to be axed. No way will he go out, yes cleaning up some disposal and taking the first option would make him a better player, but his defensive skills/efforts (5 tackles in the 1st quarter when it was still actually a game!) go overlooked on here but I'm sure will be noted by the coaches. No change for mine, unless TMac's back is still sore today, then no point putting him on the plane - take and plan for Weid to play, hours on the plane on Saturday and then hours more today could lead to a longer term back issue, so unless he's right today, I hope they take no risks.

This is another evolution of the rules, initially the father son rule meant players actually by-passed the draft (Ben Cousins as an example), then they incorporated them into the national draft but at a 2nd round cost also allowing a 3rd round pick to be used if you had 2 (Matty Scarlett was a 3rd round F/S), that then changed so a club could only take the 1 F/S but at a cost of a 3rd round pick (G Ablett), then changed back so the 1st F/S was a 3rd round and 2nd one costing a 2nd round pick. The Tom Hawkins, who was the clear number 1 pick went for a 3rd rounder (bloody hell Geelong have used their sperm well!) they changed to a bidding system where a club used their next pick - we got Viney for pick 26 but a bid came at pick 7. After that they changed to a points index system where there's discounts for F/S. So the change to the NGA system after the Dogs got lucky is no surprise, these things have been fluid. But, lets be honest, Mac Andrew was not rated by anyone as remotely close to a top 50 pick even a year ago, he's done very well to come along like he has, and if we miss out, we miss out. Just a shame it's happening the first year the rules have been changed that way.