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To be fair to casey, they did lose a lot of good vfl footballers then add into it the likes of manger, couch, Davis and hogan from last year. Most of the MFC listed players are young kids learning the ropes, hence casey last qrt fade outs each week. I'd love a stand alone VFL side, it just makes sense. Plus playing every 2nd week out at the cold and windswept casey fields wouldn't be ideal for the players

Please... This thread is embarrassing

No change.. Don't see what Terlich would bring if he came in for Riley, unless we moved grimes into the midfield and Terlich back otherwise there's no spot for Terlich and Grimes is a lot better down back anyway.. Salem the sub again.

I've said it in the previous Frawley thread.. What does he get out of signing at melbourne right now ? Apart from stopping the speculation. He can wait till seasons end and say "well club A is offering me this, what can you do ? " if he signed with us now he could be dudding himself 100-150k less. For all we know he's just trying to drag out an extra 100k out of us. I don't see why he would sign now serves no benefit to him whatsoever.

Can't say I noticed him not chasing anyone so can't question you on that. He was in the top 10 a few weeks back for pressure acts in the comp( number 1 at the dees) up until that point in time. Think he has enough credits in the bank so far this year to be given the benefit of the doubt on one bad game. No doubt in my mind he'll be playing this week

Reckon it's time michie got another crack. Has put together 3-4 good weeks in the 2s and you see when players are made to earn there spot with consistent good form ala Kent last night they can come in and have an impact. And people calling for Bail to be dropped is ridiculous, he didn't have a big night in possession terms but his forward pressure is enormous in roosys game plan, no way he"ll be dropped. IN: Michie OUT: Riley

6. Dunn 5. N. Jones 4. Viney 3. Mckenzie 2. Kent 1. Grimes

Really excited for today's game. A big chance to jump up the ladder to 13th or a loss will see us drop down behind GWS to 16th, not huge in the context of things but a win like this just gets the club a bit of reward for effort to go to 13th on the ladder n jump up above the doggies & Richmond!!! C'mon dees

Think the problem for terlich might have been we have Jetta, Dunn, Garland, McDonald, Grimes & Howe, there isn't really a spot for him down back. I think we are, as we have done gone with another mid. Provides a bit more run and another rotation through the middle!

Mckenzie, Riley, Kent, Salem final bench. IN: Mckenzie, Riley, Kent OUT: Gawn, Terlich, JKH

I think it just means that they will have a case to answer

Essendon players finally have been issued show cause notices from ASADA.. Surely this has to help our cause on Sunday, would have to be distracting for the players.

Would think on the back of 6 day break Salem will almost certainly be rested. JKH maybe not seeing he was the sub. I think zaharakis is there most damaging mid after Watson, is a goal-kicker which makes him a bit more dangerous then Heppell but not sure if cross would be able to match zakas pace... IN: Kent, Riley OUT: Salem, Gawn BTW it's round 13 not 12 as the title thread says

6. Dunn 5. Vince 4. N. Jones 3. Pedersen 2. Cross (beat beames) 1. Jetta

I'd love to think we can do a Port Adelaide and turn things around within 2 years but I don't think that's going to happen. So you don't want to take an 18 year old and wait for him to develope but you'll wait on toumpas/Salem ? No difference. And I'm talking about our ball use out of defence, that's why I would like toumpas tried off half back. Yes there is always a risk in the draft of taking players who's strengths won't hold up to AFL but if you don't draft players because they MIGHT not make it then your kidding yourself. The club should back themselves to be able to develope them well enough once they draft them.

Well considering we won't be challenge for a top 4 for 5 years I don't see what's wrong with waiting a few years for an 18 year old to develope. Hawthorn identified this years ago and went out and specially recruited players who can kick, suckling and birchall are probly 2 of the best kicks in the comp. They traded for Guerra. Strauss is yet another player who has been under developed through the dark years.. I'll back our new coaching staff to develope an 18 year old the right way

Another thing is our turnovers kill us... We are crying out for some good ball users out of the defensive 50. Dunn is about the only good user out of there. Jetta isn't bad but Grimes he is a courageous as they come but isn't a great kick. Tom McDonald is a bloody good defender but lacks any ball handling skills whatsoever, he can't bounce, handball or kick under pressure. Garland is a long kick but not a great user, Terlich is the same. I've said it all year, our 1st or 2nd pick in this draft needs to be used on a half back with elite skills in the grant birchall mauld

I agree.. Don't see why everyone defends him. His is a liability, I'd much rather see toumpas used off half back then terlich. Terlich is on borrowed time, he's a stop gap player and as soon as we are a side pushing for the 8 his gone.

I'm not sure who the commentator was, maybe mike Sheehan ? Going back earlier in the year where he questioned wether Roosy changes his game plan to suit teams(obviously this happens to some extent every week) but does he instruct us in games like today and perhaps the Sydney game to more so stem the bleeding and not let it be a blow out and then in other games gives the boys a bit more license to take the game on. Having said that we really took it up to the top side last week. Today just seemed a lot different to the way we've played the last 5 to 6 weeks.

Jesse white out, Grundy in. JKH the sub

Good point. Would like to have Salem & JKH both at the feet of the talls. I don't know if Terlich offers much as a sub. Will be interesting to see who they go with.

Another thing, who will be the sub ? I think it has to be JKH, as much as I don't want it to be. Salem was too good last week to be sub. Matt Jones would leave us a pure midfielder short. I think it has to JKH unfortunately.

Our fowarline of Dawes, Frawley, Pedersen, Gawn & Watts could really stretch there defence. They only have Frost, Keefe and Goldsack who isn't exactly a key defender. I'd assume Frost will go to Dawes, Keefe to Frawley. Maybe Goldsack to Pedersen ? I'm not too sure who will take Watts and Gawn when his down there... If we can win enough ball out of the middle we can defiantly win this game. Our backline is more than capable of matching up there forwards I'd also like to see Bail play the defensive roll on Langdon or Williams. I'd say: McDonald to Cloke Dunn to White Garland to Elliott

I'm confused, i am a 11 game member.. Can I just walk in like every other week ?

I went to watch the video expecting some obvious indicators that he was leaving the way everyone on here is carrying on.. It was a minute interview FFS.. I don't know wether he'll stay or go but ppl making an assumption off the back of that are just been ridiculous. Like an early poster said his never been comfortable in front of a camera. Just say he wants to stay, what advantage does he get from signing now ? AFL football is a profession and If you were in his position wouldn't you hold out to get a little bit more money from the dees ?