M_9

If you took a selfie you'd have a pic of them!

'So the data over the last three years is interesting @binman and @M_9. In 2024, 25 percent of games were won by sides with fewer i50s that their opposition. Here's the spooky bit, in 2023 it was 5 percent and in 2022 it was statistically insignificant ~0 percent.' I reckon this data is the reason that the FD will be forced to change our game plan. We may have been close in '22 and '23 but the fact is we lost 4 from 4 finals. 2024 - yes, we had injuries to key players and played others (Petty and rucking JvR) out of position, but we were never close to finals let alone a flag. It appears to me that sides worked us out post our flag. All sides will be better than last year. We could well finish 14th again (7th or 8th is my tip). Things have to change. Moving Petty back, having a fit and firing Trac and Clarry, plus couple of likely recruits, merely takes us back to '22 and '23. We need at least 50 goals from JvR. That ain't going to happen if he's got to ruck, or if the ball enters our fifty high and wide.. I liked Campbell's performance v Xerry, but he's not our future (he's a month older than Max). AJ lacks height for a ruckman but he can jump, and he's not afraid to use his bulk. If he gets reasonable game time he could well boot 20 goals. We need to markedly improve our ball movement - score more goals that emanate from our back half. Getting more turnovers is critical. You can often catch the opposition out of position unlike getting a possession from a clearance. Look at GWS (v Pies) and their tackling and turnovers in their forward fifty. My bet is that we see it again tomorrow (their aggression/desperation). Let's match it.

Not sure you want a bloke who can only play one position as your sub.

I'm not sure about that. Maybe Goody has listened to Daniel Hoyne and we're looking for a Dan Houston sort of player - run and boot it long (and directed) inside the F50.

@WERRIDEE you're asleep at the wheel mate. Where's our team that has the six newbies included? My guess is the 'outs' are Billings, TMac and one of Petty, JvR or ? hasn't come up.

I only had 'half and ear' to the conversation. Whately (?) asked Hoyne about the importance of I50's cf ball movement and Hoyne gave the example of last year's GF where the Swans had only two fewer I50's (49-51) but lost by 10 goals. Whately then asked who you'd draft first - a good mid-fielder (clearance player) or a good half back. I don't think Hoyne gave a definitive answer (both equally important, or have their role). BTW I don't know what 'ball movement ' means, or how you measure it. Scores from transition from your back half?

Daniel Hoyne said on Monday that 4 of the last 5 premierships were won by teams that were top three in ball movement. By that he meant their goals emanated largely from their half back line. The inside 50 count was not a factor. Our 2021 premiership was the exception.

My pick (to miss out) on the back of an ordinary performance v Freo, but I think the FD likes his defensive work.

From the Cat's website '...Last year [2023] with the Geelong Cats Foundation, the Club embarked on the most significant campaign in our history. Our Capital Campaign, Advancing the Way We Play, aims to raise $20m to support our future facilities, people and the broader Geelong region...' The Costa group promptly stumped up $10m. So there you have it. GFC players are people and they're being supported. Nothing to see!

Absolutely no way that you can enforce it. That's why minor leagues gave up on salary caps years ago and adopted the points system. Appears to work very well in my local league (Bellarine). I can see where the AFL is headed if club spending is not reigned in. The Premier League currently has no salary cap (they are trying to set one up). The NBA have no salary cap. The wealthy dominate The AFL need to put strict rules in place. Jack Bowes being paid his $1.6million over 4 years rather than one had he stayed at the Suns. Yeah, OK! Bailey Smith only getting paid the amount on the Club's books. Yeah, sure!

Frank may have passed on but I have little doubt that his legacy as regards the GFC is profound. BTW the Costa group was sold 18 months ago for $1.5 billion. I have lived on the Surfcoast for more than 40 years. The rumours re third party player payments have been rife for years: farms in parent's names, cars and jobs for family members, and so on. Brian Cook was mentored by Frank. He's smart and diligent in his role as CEO, then and now. The best in the business. The AFL will find nothing. Everything is legit.

People, like me, who use it have heard the Ed Zachary disease joke.

I've had no problem with Petty prior to last year. I understand the FD trying him up forward but NFI why they continued when he failed to fire. Look at the stats: 9 goals from 20 games; 9 games where he had 4 or fewer kicks; 10 games where he laid 2 or fewer tackles. Together with JvR he was our only other big forward. We needed him to kick 30+ goals. I watched him live numerous times. He was lost. Playing as a back he is taken to the ball, or where the ball is probably going to be kicked to. He doesn't have to keep half an eye on Fritch. JvR or Max and where they're going to lead to. He has one job - deny his opponent the ball. He's great when given that task. Playing as a backman he's one of the best in the comp. He complements May and Lever to a tee

Getting Petty out of the fwd line will be a positive IMO. He rarely got his hands on the ball, and when he did (clunk his marks) he kicked poorly (9.15). I've no doubt if AJ is given the same game time fwd as Petty he'll return a goal a game at least.

As I posted prior to our Freo game, my tip is Lions v GWS or Freo GF. All three teams have depth, something we lack

Off to the Saints. Re-contracted but as per Clarry going to Cats last October, contracts mean stuff all. Clarry is running around in hoops?

Zackery what I've been saying' for nigh on two years.

He wouldn't be the first player to employ the use of an 'assistant' to take his shot - hand off to Trac, Sharp ... At least worth a try. I'm sick of watching Billings line it up knowing full well he'll never kick a goal (from beyond 20m).

Purely tongue in cheek. I love Jesse, Toby, Grundy etc al.

If Hogan doesn't play I'll only have Toby to 'boo'. Might save it for King's Birthday - Howe, Maynard, Moore, Cox ...

Tholstrup good to go? TBC is To be confirmed. Hore, Kenterfield et al are weeks away.

Exactly. Why did Chelly write 'Round four'?

WTF. Where'd you get this from?

Methinks, as a last resort, when Billings is having a set shot that someone like Sharp, Sparrow, Petracca ... run past and take a handball. We all know there's a snow ball's chance in hell that Billings will kick a goal.

My setup exactly. We saw yesterday what can happen when your second ruck is a key position player and gets injured. You're down two key positions. IMO (no stats to back this up) but playing in the ruck, particularly if you're undersize, must make you more prone to injury ('collision' injury). JvR, if he's going to get injured, it'll be if he's forced to ruck. And as for Max dropping himself in 'the hole' he's going to cop a Petracca-like injury if he doesn't stop. Had AJ not played yesterday our back-up ruckman would have been ....?