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Love the pessimism GOTO. Who’s to say JT does not pull another McVee or we take a quality mature from the VFL,SANFL,WAFL that fits a role? We dont need a bunch of mid range picks we need elite additions which 5 and 9 offers. I would not be surprised if our third pick is on a kid we think has the right attributes to play key defence in the future.

Watching Reid’s highlights I dispute the call that he is slow. He’s not lightning but I dont see his outside running being of concern offensively or defensively.

Murphy Reid. 9 minutes of highlights and he fumbles once and he goes to ground once (pressure acts section excluded). Maybe it’s the hair but gee his movement and kicking reminds me of Travis Johnstone.

I assume Hore and Bowser fit the 1-4 year category still?

Smith at 5 if there no buts about it. Assuming Smith complement him with one of Smillie, Travaglia, Allan in that order. I do really like Reid but have nagging concern about taking two smallish mids.

Whilst not a phantom their order would have us getting Lalor and Tauru which I would not have an issue with (though probably prefer Allan at 9 even with the alleged go home factor).

I wonder if player x is available at 9 that we would take but if Richmond really want would they offer 11 and 18 or 20 for 9. As example we may plan to take Armstrong but be willing to let them trade up if they really wanted him seeing the combo of Shanahan (11) and Hynes (18)as greater overall value.

Agree if they want Tauru our best position is them not being confident he gets passed our pick 5 forcing them to take him at 2. This increases the midfielder options available to us at pick 5.

Everything I see of Langford and Reid they look clean and skilled but just look so slow compared to the others. It’s really drawing me away from rating them with others. Really hoping for one Lalor or Smith to slip to us at 5 and then take one of Travaglia or Lyndsay at 9.

Why not Smith in the mix?

For anyone wanting to give this some credibility and be disappointed last year they rated Collingwood giving up their first for Schultz and Ginnivan for next to nothing as a B. These periods are best judged in 1-2 years time. Looking at who went where and what our intent was mature low cost ruck, replace some run, add elite draftees it’s hard to argue we didnt meet expectations. I could see Sharp being the bargain buy of this years trade like Massimo last year.

I think pick 9 will debut before pick 5.

Hopefully one of Smith/O’Sullivan/Lalor get through to 5 and we sneak one of Tauru or Travaglia in at 9.

This to me is a smart potential trade. On the cusp of their best 22 but held out through their depth of midfield. Vic boy. Strong runner. Wont cost the earth and at 21 potential upside in development and potentially fills holes in list left by ANB and Hunter.

It's not our struggle? He wants to come to us but he's in contract with a club who is losing 4-5 put of contract,, who rate him and have a history of holding players to deals. Unless you want us to trade with exhorbitant overs to wrench him out unsure what more we do unless/until they change position. Also plenty of deals currently with preferred clubs poles apart at the minute. Typical trade period half way through.

Which of the above deals I mentioned would you do? Remind me your thoughts on Fullerton and Billing’s deals where you could argue we just did something?

We rightfully had a crack at Peatling and missed. Perryman is going to be paid $900k at the Pies. Cummings a 6 year deal at the Crows. Battle enough contract to trigger the highest draft compensation. Houston if we were still in it would be costing us pick 5 Baker and Bolton we are in the wrong state to entice. Noble and Rioli first round picks. Haynes, Darling, Parker passed well passed their best and would require good $$ multi year retirement deals. Some times the best list management is the one that does little.

My understanding is the only way we messed this up is our first pick driftedmuch higher in the back end of the year than when we were willing to part with it for the proposed deal. Then both parties cooled for differing reasons.

I think the most likely will be if Richmond decide to spread some of their potential 2024 first round bounty for Rioli, Bolton, Baker et al across into 2025 and bank on us bombing with our F1.

They have form of keeping players in contract who want to leave for personal circumstance. Bobby Hill a good example.

I had not watched any highlights of Kako until The Age rumoured our potential interest. The highlights show very good traits, super clean handling in tight, good burst acceleration, does not go to ground, simple compact kicking style.

Unless GC have high confidence in us bombing in 2025 then it feels like other clubs with interest are ahead of us with what they can offer.

Peatling, Cumming and Nibbler. they must be doing something right in their pitches.

Arguably the best performed VFL ruck in 2024 aside from Ned Moyle and Nick Bryan who are both young and in contract and would not come to sit behind Gawn as a plan B option let alone the cost to acquire them. Make sense to me as a no/low cost 2025 solution.

It would be a consideration if out of contract but under contract would cost overs and I am not convinced he brings the connection and execution we need to layer outside of first possession. You would think with Fyfe and OMeara aging he/they would expect him to break in with another preseason.