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Welcome AJ. Our tall forwards were about to be led in age by 22 year old Disco Turner. Selecting a mature in body and age tall with a touch of mongrel and upside I can see the sense in it. Also as others have said I doubt now he has his chance he’ll die wondering.

Welcome Xavier. Smooth mover with polish. Love that we have taken two lefties.

Welcome Harvey. Size, run and inside/outside polish.

Assuming Jagga does not slide to us Langford and Allan my preferred. but wont be unhappy if Tauru or Travaglia in the combo.

Do you really think JT would take him at 5 if he does not believe he will be a gun.

I also wonder with StKilda already having Phillipou is Langford too similar in type. Or if someone trades up for one of StKildas picks will they swoop on another target to get ahead of others or maybe they do it to get their hands on Langford. It’s unlikely but I dont feel it’s impossible.

Assuming we have the choice of Smith or Langford I want Smith but would not be disappointed with Langford (in JT we Trust). When I watch Merritt, Butters, Neale I wish we had one of those types to complement our bulls. Clean, buzzy second possessions connectors who accumulate and make things happen. Jagga is not a carbon copy of any of them but he is in the mould. Anyone thinking he wont impact in 2025 should go and watch his impact in 3 VFL Richmond games without an AFL preseason or knowing his team mates. If Smith at 5 or even if Langford I am all in on Allan next up. He just has X factor attributes in his speed and size combo but also his hardness that I can see his immediate lock into a back flank whilst he develops for the inevitable midfield transition in a season or two. Whilst Jackson went home you just need to look at our depth of WA boys to know we dont draft talent with that concern and back ourselves in (3 year minimum contracts now also assist that settling period). Fantasy maybe but if we take Jagga at 5 is there a strange world where if Smillie goes 6 and one of pick 7/8 becomes a tall where Langford could fall in our laps at 9? (A boy can dream I guess).

The most interesting thing with this update is reading where we are mentioned as linked to players. All the obvious ones would “come into our consideration” at 5. However good to see us mentioned as having Allan and Travaglia linked to our considerations for 9. Armstrong and Reid also mentioned.

Love the pessimism GOTO. Who’s to say JT does not pull another McVee or we take a quality mature from the VFL,SANFL,WAFL that fits a role? We dont need a bunch of mid range picks we need elite additions which 5 and 9 offers. I would not be surprised if our third pick is on a kid we think has the right attributes to play key defence in the future.

Watching Reid’s highlights I dispute the call that he is slow. He’s not lightning but I dont see his outside running being of concern offensively or defensively.

Murphy Reid. 9 minutes of highlights and he fumbles once and he goes to ground once (pressure acts section excluded). Maybe it’s the hair but gee his movement and kicking reminds me of Travis Johnstone.

I assume Hore and Bowser fit the 1-4 year category still?

Smith at 5 if there no buts about it. Assuming Smith complement him with one of Smillie, Travaglia, Allan in that order. I do really like Reid but have nagging concern about taking two smallish mids.

Whilst not a phantom their order would have us getting Lalor and Tauru which I would not have an issue with (though probably prefer Allan at 9 even with the alleged go home factor).

I wonder if player x is available at 9 that we would take but if Richmond really want would they offer 11 and 18 or 20 for 9. As example we may plan to take Armstrong but be willing to let them trade up if they really wanted him seeing the combo of Shanahan (11) and Hynes (18)as greater overall value.

Agree if they want Tauru our best position is them not being confident he gets passed our pick 5 forcing them to take him at 2. This increases the midfielder options available to us at pick 5.

Everything I see of Langford and Reid they look clean and skilled but just look so slow compared to the others. It’s really drawing me away from rating them with others. Really hoping for one Lalor or Smith to slip to us at 5 and then take one of Travaglia or Lyndsay at 9.

Why not Smith in the mix?

For anyone wanting to give this some credibility and be disappointed last year they rated Collingwood giving up their first for Schultz and Ginnivan for next to nothing as a B. These periods are best judged in 1-2 years time. Looking at who went where and what our intent was mature low cost ruck, replace some run, add elite draftees it’s hard to argue we didnt meet expectations. I could see Sharp being the bargain buy of this years trade like Massimo last year.

I think pick 9 will debut before pick 5.

Hopefully one of Smith/O’Sullivan/Lalor get through to 5 and we sneak one of Tauru or Travaglia in at 9.

This to me is a smart potential trade. On the cusp of their best 22 but held out through their depth of midfield. Vic boy. Strong runner. Wont cost the earth and at 21 potential upside in development and potentially fills holes in list left by ANB and Hunter.

It's not our struggle? He wants to come to us but he's in contract with a club who is losing 4-5 put of contract,, who rate him and have a history of holding players to deals. Unless you want us to trade with exhorbitant overs to wrench him out unsure what more we do unless/until they change position. Also plenty of deals currently with preferred clubs poles apart at the minute. Typical trade period half way through.

Which of the above deals I mentioned would you do? Remind me your thoughts on Fullerton and Billing’s deals where you could argue we just did something?

We rightfully had a crack at Peatling and missed. Perryman is going to be paid $900k at the Pies. Cummings a 6 year deal at the Crows. Battle enough contract to trigger the highest draft compensation. Houston if we were still in it would be costing us pick 5 Baker and Bolton we are in the wrong state to entice. Noble and Rioli first round picks. Haynes, Darling, Parker passed well passed their best and would require good $$ multi year retirement deals. Some times the best list management is the one that does little.