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Motlop played his 3 best games this year at the MCG. If you could get him consistent in work ethic he is exactly the type of line breaker we need. I would suggest he will have been discussed by our list management but I wonder how seriously.

Fair few there you're over rating. i think it's assured he will finish top 10 in their B&F and probably top 5. Will be interesting to see. Also we are talking about a kid 5 years away from his best footy with 10 years probably left. Not exactly apples with apples.

How did the Cats tall forwards go tonight. 8 marks and 5 massive spoils to go with the best disposal efficiency on the ground in a pressure match. Not his best but I would suggest he would feature higher in the coaches votes than 16th or lower. Is a super player who is already statistically the best intercept mark in the comp which is fast becoming a crucial role in today's game.

You have noted they're 13 cms and 8 kilos in size difference yeah?

No Petracca in the side is a ridiculous. I cant find the recent link but champion data had him in their best side of 2017 on a half forward flank based on statistical output. Being it was voted on by fans really removes any merit on the side.

Another year interrupted by injury, suspension and then form. Agree with most that he is not a back. We need to move him into our midfield rotation but he needs to build the suitable ethic over the summer to get the required endurance. I hope he is told this and read some home truths about what is required. I would then stick him to Lewis and shadow him all preseason. I don't think he's a bust as he has the required attributes but he needs some continuity and what I perceive is a kick in his desire to be the best he can be. Otherwise I would be seeing whether he needs to be part of a serious trade to get Lever or an A grade mid done.

Likely if I asked most who the best 3 key position defenders are they would say Rance, Hurley and McGovern. Would be worth looking at how often any of them play on the main key forward or even the second one this year.

Could not agree more with this. Is best when he works over his opponent and then beats them on the lead or reads the flight to outmanoeuvre. Too much time wrestling and trying to get the ball over the back early in the year and last. his haul late in the season showed how he should go about it. We need to get a seriously good forward craft coach for him and Weids.

I watched last night and I would love to see evidence Gaff is soft. Goes when it's his turn and would be in the top 5 gut runners in the league. Most players can go the hard ball not many have the mental or physical capacity to gut run like he does. Also makes quick decisions and executes cleanly. Anyone that doesnt think he is worth a first rounder and a reasonable player overvalues picks.

We need to improve our starting 18 and push our current bottom 3-4 into consistent VFL time. Being the amount of injury our senior core had this year and Vandenberg, McKenna and Garland missed all year with Smith missing most who all would have played significant VFL games. Based on this it is amazing Casey have done as well as they have.

There is nothing wrong with Weideman's attack on the footy in the air. If anything its a strength. When in the contest does not take many marks yet but also rarely is out marked. At this stage does not lead to the right spots and does not have the engine for consistent multiple leads. Big year for him next year which being its his third should be when he starts to show consistent ,maturity. Still think he will be a quality tall forward.

A good representation of Casey's year as well, an extremely poor patch of a game meant they were playing catch up and didnt take their chances in the last 10 minutes to really put the pressure on. Maynard immense and will be interesting to view his progression over the pre-season. Keilty showed signs when forward. Kennedy and Kennedy-Harris have some eye catching moments but both go missing for massive patches.

They would be taking every precaution with him.

Finally mentioned allegedly its with a sore neck. Hopefully that is the case and not head.

The commentators are pathetic. Keep mentioning Brayshaw needs to get into the game when he has not been on all quarter and most of the first. Would be good to know why. Maynard plays like Priddis and will be interesting to see with another preseason.Lots of players still to clear out. Stretch and Kennedy Harris will not make quality AFL players, it befuddles me why we re-contracted either.

Agree on the first if we took Kelly but word was it would have been Billings (not as clear whether that is a loss at all). The Vince trade is one where it is clearly a win for both parties and as you would expect this season it has moved into the Crows favour. We needed to the short term benefit of quality and experience and Vince as a B&F winner has held up his end. This also assumes we would have taken Crouch with that choice.

Injuries cruelled us and forced us to players out of position exposing youngsters to more weekly impact and pressure than was expected. This is one of the key reasons I feel we tired and players such as Trac, Hunt, O-Mac lost their consistent impact. Aside from this the first year of our manic style was always going to sap the players at some point. I thought Richmond were bog ordinary last night aside from Dusty getting off the chain and playing three levels above all others. Its just Geelong were even worse and really the last quarter was not finals footy but a front running side having a party against a poor side with the cue in the rack. Its the reason I think we are actually not far off and need to capitalise by going all out in the off season to land the missing pieces, particularly ones with 5-8 years of their best footy ahead.

Richmond and Adelaide also proved that possibly the most important role is a quality intercept spoiler. The amount of pressure dumped kicks forward in both games that Lever and Rance controlled was massive. The other obvious difference in the game from both sides was the defensive running of the victorious mids in both cases. I would give up our first pick this year and next and a player in our top 12-24 range ie: Tyson, Salem, Watts if thats what it takes to land both Lever and Gaff. Time for us to take a swing to set ourselves for a period of sustained challenging for the flag.

I reckon if anywhere GC and WC are the most likely destinations. Eagles have just retired their two first dibs inside mids. Issue would be I cant see Tyson agreeing to a move let alone an interstate move.

Jack Lonie No. Jack Sinclair however would be a great get if you could prise him from the saints.

Giants are rabbits in the headlights tonight. First time I have heard Nick Riewoldt in special comments. Great to hear someone finally live up to the role.

You have to get it in there to benefit from Kennedy and Darling and NicNat will tap it down to which first dibs mid?

I would love McKenzie if it means I never have to witness Vince take another kick out again in my life.

Watts application was questioned at the start of the year. Back end of year his application was questioned again. I want players that do not need after 9 years of AFL to be coaxed to get the required effort for a high performance professional club. I want players that I trust what I will get week in week out. I would trade him for anything inside pick 30 or as part of any deal to get Lever and/or some outside run like Gaff/Devon Smith/Hall/Whitfield.