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gOLLy Redleg

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FFS Wheels has only had 1 or 2 games back from injury. Hes got quite a few more rounds in him yet.

Nicho Demon

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players when they had value. We took the brave and right decision on Woewodin in 2002 and we let it slip after that.

On the previous site I had argued that we should have done the following:

2004 Traded Yze and TJ. Let Bizzell go the PSD.

2005 Traded White, Robbo

2006 Not traded for Pickett.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Lets me just say, TJ was a pretty averarge #1 selection all those years ago...

After 10 yeras of service, we trade him for selection 12 who we draft Jack Grimes......

Dont know how J Grimes will turn out but i think we ended up ok out of this... don't you???

Mono Redleg

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Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Lets me just say, TJ was a pretty averarge #1 selection all those years ago...

After 10 yeras of service, we trade him for selection 12 who we draft Jack Grimes......

Dont know how J Grimes will turn out but i think we ended up ok out of this... don't you???

Let me say now: Grimes will not play a game for us.

So we lost, big time. Not that I am a fan of TJ.

Mono Redleg

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Whelan is one of the more important players in our team. If he can play good football for the remainder of the year and dispel concerns over his recent injuries he'd be one of the first I'd be signing up.

Agree.

Mono Redleg

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Lets me just say, TJ was a pretty averarge #1 selection all those years ago...

..

#2 that year was Brad Ottens.

they say good big man is better that a good small man, but Ottens has been a big disappointment, so ..............

Nicho Demon

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#2 that year was Brad Ottens.

they say good big man is better that a good small man, but Ottens has been a big disappointment, so ..............

For sure TJ was a massive bomb and arguably the worse #1 going around but to get pick #12 10 years later for the dud not that bad....

there is no doubt that the Lions overpaid us for the services for TJ.. However i understand we are paying a portion of his contract, which is just stupid and half the reason we are so poor...

Other silly moves...

Paying for Woewodin and Collingwood

Paying out our last chairman


Dalrot Demon

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Let me say now: Grimes will not play a game for us.

So we lost, big time. Not that I am a fan of TJ.

I bet you are one of those posters who said Judd was coming to Melbourne, Bartram would never play again, Argus would be the next president etc etc...

The kid has had a couple of injuries early, I think it's way too soon to rub him out of the future.

Rhino Richards Legend

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For sure TJ was a massive bomb and arguably the worse #1 going around but to get pick #12 10 years later for the dud not that bad....

there is no doubt that the Lions overpaid us for the services for TJ.. However i understand we are paying a portion of his contract, which is just stupid and half the reason we are so poor...

Other silly moves...

Paying for Woewodin and Collingwood

Paying out our last chairman

Here are the past 15 years No 1 draft picks. TJ was no worse than Gardiner and better than Waterhouse and Headland.

1992 - Drew Banfield (West Coast)

1993 - Darren Gaspar (Sydney)

1994 - Jeff White (Fremantle)

1995 - Clive Waterhouse (Fremantle)

1996 - Michael Gardiner (West Coast)

1997 - Travis Johnstone (Melbourne)

1998 - Des Headland (Brisbane Lions)

1999 - Josh Fraser (Collingwood)

2000 - Nick Riewoldt (St Kilda)

2001 - Luke Hodge (Hawthorn)

2002 - Brendon Goddard (St Kilda)

2003 - Adam Cooney (Western Bulldogs)

2004 - Brett Deledio (Richmond)

2005 - Marc Murphy (Carlton)

2006 - Bryce Gibbs (Carlton)

2007 - Matthew Kreuzer (Carlton)

The problem is that we held onto TJ for too long with his mediocre output rather than trading him for more into better drafts. If we had made the call 4 years ago we would potentially have a cherry ripe 4yr experienced player. No offence to Grimes but TJ just blocked the development of other players while he plateaued at MFC.

Brisbane are paying market for TJ. We are still paying the surplus.

Woey was signed on a ridiculous back ended contract in 2000 which increased in $$$ each year as his performance decreased. A brave and correct decision was made to offload and invest in talent that would provide us with upside. Its a pity we stopped doing that with other players.

And for correction we did not pay out recently departed CEO (and not Chairman).

Jarka Redleg

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Let me say now: Grimes will not play a game for us.

So we lost, big time. Not that I am a fan of TJ.

I suppose I could just reply to you with a sarcastic comment...nah, bugger that, afterall what's a forum without debates and arguments. ;)

I'm interested in why you think that Grimes won't play a game for us?

Red and Blue Flame Redleg

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Grimes is a very talented footballer- he should be rested this year with the Back and stress fractures in his foot that he has atm

Captain Victoria and was one of the Knights' best with Kreuzer

bjgc Demon

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Our recruiting has been disgraceful since we made the Grand Final we have relyed on these players for far too long. It was hidden to some extent when we recruited Davey and McLean and Rivers stood up in 04.

We can't rely on our 18 - 22 year olds they just need to create some excitement and establish themselves in the team.

Our core players need to be the 23 - 27 year olds and this list is extreamly poor.

(this is the age they are or will be by the end of the year)

23: Bell,Sylvia

24: P.Johnson,Moloney,Rivers,Warnock

25: Davey,Jamar,Miller

27: Green,Wheatley

I would like to see Geelong's core list compared to us.

Our rule on not recruiting anyone over 23 seems to be another poor decision when you look at this poor excuse for a core list. We were always going to be at least 3 - 5 years away.

The 28 year olds and older should be the icing on the cake but they are always needed to win the games for us and they just can't do it any more.

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