Harvey and Windsor were already mates. Their dad’s played footy together and are best mates. Bith families rapt when Harvey got drafted to the Dees to join Windsor.

Is there a phantom draft for tonight?

24 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Is there a phantom draft for tonight?

Can't see one but some info

I'm edging towards NHH. Seems like a classy player and seems to have a lot of football sense.

I love the idea of Ludowyke but it if we picked him it would seriously make me wonder what we're doing with Jefferson, another athletic key forward.

14 hours ago, Hellfire Dub said:

I think it's because Richmond forced other teams to bring forward their intended picks by matching bids? Is that correct?

The whole draft thing is a bit of daft numberwang

Niche numberwang reference sighted in the wild

The curious case of Ollie Greeves.

He has talent. No doubt. He wins the footy. He’s smart. He kicks it 50+ metres. He’s good handball options. Big bodied mid. Led the Ranges to the premiership. Was certainly considered to be a top 5 pick with his carnival and some big high possession/multiple goalkicking. He simply dominated some games.

But his dominance has led to queries about his defensive side. In the AFL midfield, you have to be able to win it or defend it. Greeves missed the draft combine. His pace is being seriously questioned? Fairly or not, his two way running is raised as a concern. His pace also with the footy was seen late in the year as lacking and likely to struggle to step up to AFL. Again fair or not, footballers can be footballers but need the athletic quotient to still be there.

Greeves might be the absolute steal of 2025 but who’s taking the punt?

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Ludo didn't look much chop in the footage I saw, will be interesting to see which way we go

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

The curious case of Ollie Greeves.

He has talent. No doubt. He wins the footy. He’s smart. He kicks it 50+ metres. He’s good handball options. Big bodied mid. Led the Ranges to the premiership. Was certainly considered to be a top 5 pick with his carnival and some big high possession/multiple goalkicking. He simply dominated some games.

But his dominance has led to queries about his defensive side. In the AFL midfield, you have to be able to win it or defend it. Greeves missed the draft combine. His pace is being seriously questioned? Fairly or not, his two way running is raised as a concern. His pace also with the footy was seen late in the year as lacking and likely to struggle to step up to AFL. Again fair or not, footballers can be footballers but need the athletic quotient to still be there.

Greeves might be the absolute steal of 2025 but who’s taking the punt?

disposal also not the great. Sounds like a Luke Dunstan type

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

The curious case of Ollie Greeves.

He has talent. No doubt. He wins the footy. He’s smart. He kicks it 50+ metres. He’s good handball options. Big bodied mid. Led the Ranges to the premiership. Was certainly considered to be a top 5 pick with his carnival and some big high possession/multiple goalkicking. He simply dominated some games.

But his dominance has led to queries about his defensive side. In the AFL midfield, you have to be able to win it or defend it. Greeves missed the draft combine. His pace is being seriously questioned? Fairly or not, his two way running is raised as a concern. His pace also with the footy was seen late in the year as lacking and likely to struggle to step up to AFL. Again fair or not, footballers can be footballers but need the athletic quotient to still be there.

Greeves might be the absolute steal of 2025 but who’s taking the punt?

These are the same issues Swadling has going against him, he's more athletic than Greeves but doesn't have his contested inside assets