10 hours ago, 48 Year Now said:

I am not saying the language used is acceptable. Where will it all end , we dont know but we know there wasnt a victim and we are yet to know the effect on the perpetrator.

There was a victim; indeed many. All those who have the same characteristic and are told that their characteristic is a matter of shame and a device for abuse and/or humour. Then add those who respect or love the collateral damage or simply think that they deserve a fair go.

13 hours ago, The heart beats true said:

Rankine didn’t start high school until 2012.

No excuse. None.

I’ve never seen so many falling over themselves to excuse AN OPPOSITION PLAYER WHO VERBALLY ABUSED SOMEONE AT WORK as I have this week on here.

Honestly, it’s starting to get weird. He did a really dumb thing, that is inexcusable. He has nothing to do with our club, so Red and Blue glasses aren’t even an excuse.

Let’s stop trying to excuse the person in the wrong shall we.

I was really just trying to make a distinction between an act of deliberate and targeted abuse and someone who is wildly ignorant of the damage of such language. But perhaps that point didn't need to be made.

Footballers are not typically well educated; they mix with a very narrow section of society and are basically allowed to live out a protracted adolescence. It’s ironic their actions and words are of such greater consequence - but I understand you are much less aggrieved by the incident itself than the attempts to downplay it.

Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by wisedog

10 hours ago, 710 Asbury St said:

If you read what I wrote, I’m not saying people I personally knew were bullied because they identified as LGBTIQ+. I said that people who do identify that way were afraid of the reaction they’d get if they came out. However, you may never have witnessed it, nor did I at school but believe me it happened. There are quite a few peer reviewed research articles in regard to this. Just because you didn’t see it, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

Also, people who identify as LGBTIQ+ also faced criminal penalties for their sexual preference. South Australia was the first to decriminalise in the late 70’s with Tassie not doing so until 1997. This sends a message.

Queensland only abolished gay panic laws in 2017.

South Australia only abolished their gay panic laws in 2020.

Some people on this website would call this ‘woke’.

12 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

The AFL already protects some players from missing finals eg: HWSNBN Mark 11, Cripps, Cotchin and back a little while Barry Hall. I'm sure there are plenty of others.

We don't need any more distortion of the MRO/Tribunal 'magic herbs and spices' decisions.

I just feel that much of the reason this latest episode has blown up as it has, is due to the consternation around a star player missing finals.

If something like this was in place, Rankine would cop his 5 weeks, as he otherwise would have. Then if Adelaide play in a Premiership, and he plays 3-4 finals, he has to sit out 9-12 games in the next home and away season. That decision becomes Adelaide’s to make, and the AFL won’t have to grasp for reasons to reduce the penalty on the cusp of a finals series. (As I wrote in my earlier post, it would only be an option for players contracted for the following season.)

Just an idea, and I do acknowledge the distinct possibility it’s not a particularly good one at that.

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by wisedog

Earlier in this thread someone posted about iny miny mini mo. That struck a chord with me because I used to say that in primary school to see who was out in tiggy or whatever game we were playing. I had no idea of the meaning at the time. Thank goodness we have cultural change since those days.

On the football field anything went but the classic in my era was your mother wears army boots. There were also lots of homophobic slurs that me and my mates and opposition players said.

Not one of my mates or I would say those things now because luckily it is no longer socially acceptable and we wouldn't want to because we understand the hurt it can cause.

When my daughter was getting bullied at school I would tell her sticks and stones will break your bones but names will never hurt you. I thought I was trying to make her more resiliant but maybe that is an outdated approach.

CTE is a massive issue is sport and we have all whinessed what happened to Danny Frawley. Now his precious daughter Danielle is married to Angus who has suffered a number of head knocks.

I feel like physical action on the field is more severe than anything said on the field and the MRO is disproportionate in some of their deliberations. Having said that if a homophobic slur is directed at a homosexual player or something racist said to an indigenous player throw the book at them