We need some serious change…

Our Football Department needs a massive Clean out

16 Premiership Players still on the list..??

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We need some serious change…

Our Football Department needs a massive Clean out

16 Premiership Players still on the list..??

Where would we be in those stats if, say, we were an ordinary but better 11th worst for accuracy? These are all tied in together. Of course if the ball landed in better spots inside 50 and the forwards were doing better presenting or marking or the smalls were crumbling it would help too. But if the 'yips' has just kept snowballing more and more over a season or two then surely this diminished our efficiency further too. Who should we blame about poor kicking anyway? If players just keep missing and missing it is possible the best goal kicking coach is doing an amazing job despite everything. It's not the team's only problem and maybe dwelling on inaccuracy is just making things worse. But surely if the totals go up 20% with better kicking suddenly we're not 16 th in all these mini-stats.

Stats may not lie but interpretations of them invariably do...

As a recovering statistician I can confirm that stats genuinely believe the all the crazy things they say.

"Yes, this train goes to Pakenham, but as a passenger you are much more likely to arrive at Central than anywhere else."

The stats that matter.

2024

14th 11wins 44 %98.5

2025

15th 3 wins 12 % 79.4

Anyway you can spin that we're still rubbish, still going backwards.

All you happy clappers are delusional

9 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We need some serious change…

Our Football Department needs a massive Clean out

16 Premiership Players still on the list..??

This post is chasing me around Demonland, everywhere I click it appears.

4 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

This post is chasing me around Demonland, everywhere I click it appears.

Just now, beelzebub said:

I fear those stats will be chasing us around for awhile yet. Still going by Saturday and our young talent I'm confident in the future.

29 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

I fear those stats will be chasing us around for awhile yet. Still going by Saturday and our young talent I'm confident in the future.

We've definitely some talent( and some emerging )

But a bit like using Veuve in a Mimosa

Our accuracy has been an absolute disgrace this year, headed by the best player in our side.

Real bush league standard garbage.

Interesting that in 4 games where we've kicked more goals than behinds, we're 3-1 and that loss was a good effort V GWS. Conversely, when we kick more behinds than goals we're 0-5.

Clearly a coincidence right?

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

The stats that matter.

2024

14th 11wins 44 %98.5

2025

15th 3 wins 12 % 79.4

Anyway you can spin that we're still rubbish, still going backwards.

All you happy clappers are delusional

8 wins in the past 24 games.

We're so far from being a decent side its not funny, and all our promising youngsters are already playing.

In other words there is absolutely nothing at Casey that is going to help us.

There is a fair chance that we go backwards before we go forward (particularly when Gawn retires), and once again we have timed our fall to coincide with the arrival of expansion teams.

If Goodwin does not go at the end of the year (along with Richardson), then god help us for the next 5 years.

We are already so far down the rabbit hole, that you can virtually write off 2026 & 2027, let alone 2025.

17 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We need some serious change…

Our Football Department needs a massive Clean out

16 Premiership Players still on the list..??

Hi SWYL ( I always see Bart strangled when I see your username). Hope your well. Haven't seen you around these parts too often.

Perhaps your doing the right thing and weening your good self off socials more. Especially footy ones because my goodness footys tough when your travelling the way we are this year. We're also having a bad run of injuries adding pain to some seriously good players really struggling. The umpiring on the weekend really did it in for me this season.

Anyway to your post.....the accuracy or rather inaccuracy statistic is quite damning. Mainly because it's been vexing us ( me especially) for way too long. There are two players ( I don't need to name them except to say that they are probably two of the biggest names in the comp) that must hear Benny Hill music when lining up for a set shot. On the fly so to speak when they take a quick kick they often get all six points.

The other stats don't really say a great deal for me. Perhaps the conversion rate....which killed us in our finals and I believe cost us another flag.

But just not enough info to really sum things up. I'm reminded of that famous quote by Levenstein that implies stats only reveal a part of the situation

Im probably misquoting ( but what name I go by in my private life is none of your damn business 😀) but I think it was " Stats are like bikinis .....what they show is suggestive but what they hide is vital."

Anyway we certainly for way too long have had very little success in accruing decent scores given the number of i50s as well as , just mentioned incredibly woeful set shots. And this last issue seems to be getting worse from some players whose goal kicking you could previously take to the bank.

The inability to take a contested mark and even uncontested marks inside fifty on the weekend was frustrating.

We made face ache Sicily look really good.

With Fritta and Roo in a big slump and returning from the Magoos and Jeffo only starting, I don't know what Goody was thinking. They booted a grand total of ZERO majors for the whole game.

And as I pointed out in the game day thread our leading marker for the day , Disco with 11, should have played fwd all day. One..the others have been struggling all year. Two, he is a proven strong mark in a pack( doesn't have to rely on flying high or leading)...he's strong enough to bring them down in the thick of it. Three , when players were hitting the pie shop sixty metres away from the behind post, Disco and excellent kick would have nailed them.

Now these three facts, I believe would have made a difference. Combine that with some decent umpiring and our season quite possibly wouldn't be well and truly gone.

The only big plus was Langford.

I sense a deep disturbance in the force my friend. And dark years ahead.

I think it's time for Simon to bow out gracefully now. I thank him for the flag he got us. He will always be fondly remembered and rightly praised in the annals of footy history as the great coach who broke the Melbourne drought.

It's time to get back to building up a new team. Starting with a new coach.

Cheers.

33 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Hi SWYL ( I always see Bart strangled when I see your username). Hope your well. Haven't seen you around these parts too often.

Perhaps your doing the right thing and weening your good self off socials more. Especially footy ones because my goodness footys tough when your travelling the way we are this year. We're also having a bad run of injuries adding pain to some seriously good players really struggling. The umpiring on the weekend really did it in for me this season.

Anyway to your post.....the accuracy or rather inaccuracy statistic is quite damning. Mainly because it's been vexing us ( me especially) for way too long. There are two players ( I don't need to name them except to say that they are probably two of the biggest names in the comp) that must hear Benny Hill music when lining up for a set shot. On the fly so to speak when they take a quick kick they often get all six points.

The other stats don't really say a great deal for me. Perhaps the conversion rate....which killed us in our finals and I believe cost us another flag.

But just not enough info to really sum things up. I'm reminded of that famous quote by Levenstein that implies stats only reveal a part of the situation

Im probably misquoting ( but what name I go by in my private life is none of your damn business 😀) but I think it was " Stats are like bikinis .....what they show is suggestive but what they hide is vital."

Anyway we certainly for way too long have had very little success in accruing decent scores given the number of i50s as well as , just mentioned incredibly woeful set shots. And this last issue seems to be getting worse from some players whose goal kicking you could previously take to the bank.

The inability to take a contested mark and even uncontested marks inside fifty on the weekend was frustrating.

We made face ache Sicily look really good.

With Fritta and Roo in a big slump and returning from the Magoos and Jeffo only starting, I don't know what Goody was thinking. They booted a grand total of ZERO majors for the whole game.

And as I pointed out in the game day thread our leading marker for the day , Disco with 11, should have played fwd all day. One..the others have been struggling all year. Two, he is a proven strong mark in a pack( doesn't have to rely on flying high or leading)...he's strong enough to bring them down in the thick of it. Three , when players were hitting the pie shop sixty metres away from the behind post, Disco and excellent kick would have nailed them.

Now these three facts, I believe would have made a difference. Combine that with some decent umpiring and our season quite possibly wouldn't be well and truly gone.

The only big plus was Langford.

I sense a deep disturbance in the force my friend. And dark years ahead.

I think it's time for Simon to bow out gracefully now. I thank him for the flag he got us. He will always be fondly remembered and rightly praised in the annals of footy history as the great coach who broke the Melbourne drought.

It's time to get back to building up a new team. Starting with a new coach.

Cheers.

The most damming stat over the last 3-4 seasons is that the stats have stayed relatively unchanged

We have always had a high inside 50 count with a very poor conversion rate to score. This is “The Melbourne way” that our Coach often mentions.

Contest & Defense is Simon’s trademark, of which he coaches very well, but there is so little regard for scoring accuracy, that it is now biting hard.

Last Saturday we played well in patches, but it was a 6 goal loss, with another woeful final quarter

The trend has been around too long for it to be any coincidence

This is The Melbourne way

It’s got to change