7 minutes ago, hardtack said:

I’d also like to see just how many key position forwards were crushing it in their first three seasons. I doubt it’s been too many.

I don’t think Jesse Hogan did - now look at him

5 minutes ago, Dingo said:

I don’t think Jesse Hogan did - now look at him

First year at Casey he was outstanding

Next year at Melbourne he won the Rising Star Award I think ?

Ok thanks for that.

1 hour ago, binman said:

That makes zero sense.

Less than zero by my calculations

I'll bet my house on JVR regaining his spot and having a strong season. It wasn't the easiest team to play in in the first 5 weeks. How many of our forwards were performing well? He's talented and with an open forward line I'd expect him to continue his growth towards a really solid goal kicking forward for us. i can't understand why you'd jump off him after 5 games that we lost all but one convincingly.

6 minutes ago, Old Bear said:

First year at Casey he was outstanding

Next year at Melbourne he won the Rising Star Award I think ?

Yeah Jesse was a freak, averaged 2.14gpg with us over his first 4 years, then dropped to <1 in his 2 interrupted years at Freo. Not many hit the ground running like he did.

9 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Only takes for an early injury to any of our players to then throw that idea out of the window.

of course that applies to any team regardless of sub in the event of an early injury. More so to a KPP as subs aren’t often KPP types

4 hours ago, binman said:

Total bollocks.

The data over many games absolutely 100% contradicts your opinion on JVR.

Have you even looked at the data?

Laving aside his poor form.this season, his first two full seasons are the equal of the very best key forwards in the last 30 years, including any playing now (not to mention bestingevery other young key forward playing now).

You can do the research on thst - you'll find a post on mine from last year going thru the data in forensic detail.

Opinions are great - but claiming you have data that supports that view is so on point these days

binman - I was thinking exactly the same but couldn’t remember the data source.

Prior to the whole team’s wheels falling off last year he was being compared very favourably to the big name KPFs of the past couple of decades at the same stages of their careers.

3 hours ago, jaydenh10 said:

07 onwards in his early days geelong were on another level, in a two year period they had 20 in the aa team cant remember what years, but there is only so many goals to go round if he was on another team even an average one he probs could have doubled that 107 goal figure

Hawkins came into a high performing precision team who knew how to deliver forward and still took maybe 4 years to establish himself.

JVR is in a team that seems (or seemed prior to the Freo game) to have no idea about how to deliver into I-50. They seem (to me) to have gone lower and shorter in their delivery. Now whether that is because they don’t know, or because JVR confuses them cannot be answered.

23 hours ago, Adam The God said:

Turner or Petty I presume.

So they wanted to get Turner back in the team, and he basically replaces Fullarton, but I think it could be Petty than takes the second ruck.

I don't necessarily have a problem with this, the problem I do have is playing Fritta and Melksham in the same forward half (unless Sharp starts ajd Melksham is sub?).

Expect our forward 50 tackles to plummet if Fritta and Melky are on the ground at the same time.

Absolutely this.

If it wasn't JVR in this week as a bare minimum you had to leave Melk out for AJ

I would've gone with AJ for Melk as he brings the chop out for Max PLUS the attack at the drop and pressure / manic tackling at ground level that JVR generally doesn't.

We harp on about getting our old mojo back in terms of pressuring inside 50, locking the ball in and/or repeat entries then add a medium forward when we already have one with neither of them renowned for their tackle pressure inside 50.

So we are happy to water down the pressure instead of maintaining what we found in the last few weeks that saw us get back on the winners' list?

Strange days indeed.

Edited May 2, 2025May 2 by Demon Dynasty

I think JVR will play against the Eagles tomorrow.

After last year's debacle against WCE, I am sensing another embarrassment for the MFC. Our record in these types of games is very predictable, teams below us sense a kill when it's the MFC.

35 minutes ago, BKKBooga said:

After last year's debacle against WCE, I am sensing another embarrassment for the MFC. Our record in these types of games is very predictable, teams below us sense a kill when it's the MFC.

What’s BKK stand for?

28 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

What’s BKK stand for?

Bangkok I'd be guessing

The Shockers 1 goal under the roof

Why did i pick them😩😡

40 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The Shockers 1 goal under the roof

Why did i pick them😩😡

I picked them too. It’s well and truly awful.