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TRAINING: Wednesday 23rd April 2025

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The Casey boys came out first. Rooey was with them. The seniors followed. Fritta was with them. Read into that what you will.

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    16 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

    The Casey boys came out first. Rooey was with them. The seniors followed. Fritta was with them. Read into that what you will.

    Wouldn’t surprise if Melky is out

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    Glad Fritta is back in.

    Intrigued to see if May is training and if Blake Howes is with the seniors or Casey.

    Judd McVee? Fullarton?

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    Hurry up my little sheet rack i need a training fix

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    I hope we don't make too many changes. We want consistency when you win like we did the other day.

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    All listed players in attendance today, except Lever (and the LTI's). Marty Hore was doing some running and kicking training with the physio - seems to be progressing well.

    Turner was going through the "concussion protocols" with some moderate running.

    May moved well.

    Likely changes May and McVee in for Turner and Howes. See the other comments re Fritsch perhaps coming back for Melksham, depending on Melksham's condition.

    Whilst I would prefer Campbell also in for Fullarton, I suspect that that change will not be made.

    Some consideration probably given as to whether Howes stays as sub, and Sharp has a run at Casey?

    Trac almost last off the field, doing lots of goal-kicking from 30-40 metres - all drop punts!

    Fritta and Oliver last to leave....

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    3 minutes ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

    All listed players in attendance today, except Lever (and the LTI's). Marty Hore was doing some running and kicking training with the physio - seems to be progressing well.

    Turner was going through the "concussion protocols" with some moderate running.

    May moved well.

    Likely changes May and McVee in for Turner and Howes. See the other comments re Fritsch perhaps coming back for Melksham, depending on Melksham's condition.

    Whilst I would prefer Campbell also in for Fullarton, I suspect that that change will not be made.

    Some consideration probably given as to whether Howes stays as sub, and Sharp has a run at Casey?

    Trac almost last off the field, doing lots of goal-kicking from 30-40 metres - all drop punts!

    Fritta and Oliver last to leave....

    Did Howes and Sharp train with the seniors??

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    3 minutes ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

    All listed players in attendance today, except Lever (and the LTI's). Marty Hore was doing some running and kicking training with the physio - seems to be progressing well.

    Turner was going through the "concussion protocols" with some moderate running.

    May moved well.

    Likely changes May and McVee in for Turner and Howes. See the other comments re Fritsch perhaps coming back for Melksham, depending on Melksham's condition.

    Whilst I would prefer Campbell also in for Fullarton, I suspect that that change will not be made.

    Some consideration probably given as to whether Howes stays as sub, and Sharp has a run at Casey?

    Trac almost last off the field, doing lots of goal-kicking from 30-40 metres - all drop punts!

    Fritta and Oliver last to leave....

    Why would you rather Campbell? I think it's better to have a key forward who rucks. We need Campbell at Casey to help Verrell and I'd much rather use Campbell when we really need him (if Max needs to be rested or gets injured).

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    Just my personal opinion - Campbell is a "fit for purpose" quality ruckman who has performed very well at Casey and he can give us a significant advantage in the middle and at stoppages when Max needs a rest. Of course, we may not always want to play a second ruckman, and it will largely depend upon what we expect from the opposition.

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    6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Did Howes and Sharp train with the seniors??

    There was no separation as such on the ground. These Captain's Runs are not used as match sims for the 23 who have been selected. Some cues are being taken from the order players came across from AAMI. I do not put much store in that as, for example, Kossie came across early and Culley came across with the main group. Kossie will play AFL and Jai will play Casey I expect.

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    4 minutes ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

    Just my personal opinion - Campbell is a "fit for purpose" quality ruckman who has performed very well at Casey and he can give us a significant advantage in the middle and at stoppages when Max needs a rest. Of course, we may not always want to play a second ruckman, and it will largely depend upon what we expect from the opposition.

    Yep. Campbell should be under serious consideration if Max is facing two big boy decent rucks. Last week vs Omac... Fullo is fine.

    This week the Tiges only have Nan as a serious ruck so should be fine to go round again with Fullo.

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    2 minutes ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

    Just my personal opinion - Campbell is a "fit for purpose" quality ruckman who has performed very well at Casey and he can give us a significant advantage in the middle and at stoppages when Max needs a rest. Of course, we may not always want to play a second ruckman, and it will largely depend upon what we expect from the opposition.

    You'd have him play forward too though, right? Would you play an extra tall forward or just the single tall? The single tall could work (as below).

    If you move the ball quickly enough, it may well work to structure your forwardline like so:

    Spargo Fritta Chandler

    Kozzy Petty Trac

    Campbell resting forward or on the bench. So there's enough forward pressure with Spargo, Kozzy, Trac and Chandler. It puts the onus on our mids and half backs to ensure they don't long bomb. I'd also try and isolate Petty, Kozzy and Trac one out as often as possible.

    Edited by Adam The God

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    A very pleasant morning track side with lots of kids getting autographs and selfies.

    Pretty much a full turnout except for long term injuries.

    Marty Hore was out very early but is still 3 weeks away. Has a natural great smile.

    Bill, Kynan and Woey out next.

    Clarry and Fritta were kick to kick practising low ball gets.

    May went ok but looks tender.

    It was a light session and you could read alot into who was with who but thats just a guess.

    Tracca having shots from the boundary with Choco on the mark at the end.

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    9 minutes ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

    Just my personal opinion - Campbell is a "fit for purpose" quality ruckman who has performed very well at Casey and he can give us a significant advantage in the middle and at stoppages when Max needs a rest. Of course, we may not always want to play a second ruckman, and it will largely depend upon what we expect from the opposition.

    Is it possible to have an opinion that isn't "personal"? Anyway I agree with you re Campbell. If Nank gets Gawny, which he always tries to do, we have Fullarton as back up. With Campbell we have a real ruck, Campbell is a much more "belts and braces" approach.

    My reading if Fritta comes back that was the plan from day one. Why would you only play him for a half at Casey when he's out of form? This, coupled with Goody's comments in yesterday's presser suggest he's a good chance of coming back. If he does come back it suggests his demotion last week was a penalty rather than form.

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    6 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

    Yep. Campbell should be under serious consideration if Max is facing two big boy decent rucks. Last week vs Omac... Fullo is fine.

    This week the Tiges only have Nan as a serious ruck so should be fine to go round again with Fullo.

    Fair point - 6 disposals and the lowest individual player rating doesn't really do it for me. Happy to see improvement from Tom in Game 2, if he plays.

    The other consideration is what they expect from Max - with Turner going down, and Petty staying forward, it was suggested that Max played a more defensive role in the second half than otherwise?

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    15 minutes ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

    There was no separation as such on the ground. These Captain's Runs are not used as match sims for the 23 who have been selected. Some cues are being taken from the order players came across from AAMI. I do not put much store in that as, for example, Kossie came across early and Culley came across with the main group. Kossie will play AFL and Jai will play Casey I expect.

    Thanks mate. Appreciate the efforts.

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    10 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

    You'd have him play forward too though, right? Would you play an extra tall forward or just the single tall? The single tall could work (as below).

    If you move the ball quickly enough, it may well work to structure your forwardline like so:

    Spargo Fritta Chandler

    Kozzy Petty Trac

    Campbell resting forward or on the bench. So there's enough forward pressure with Spargo, Kozzy, Trac and Chandler. It puts the onus on our mids and half backs to ensure they don't long bomb. I'd also try and isolate Petty, Kozzy and Trac one out as often as possible.

    If you go the second ruck option it can go many ways - when we had Jacko, he could go forward (naturally) or Max can take longer breaks while Jacko rucked.

    With Petty as a sole tall, Max could go forward whilst Campbell rucks. Plan A was probably adjusted on Saturday because Turner went down - let's see what happens tomorrow night. As I said, I expect Fullarton gets another crack at it.

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    13 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

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    My reading if Fritta comes back that was the plan from day one. Why would you only play him for a half at Casey when he's out of form?....

    I'm pretty sure I saw him playing in the 3rd quarter, if not longer.

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    23 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

    You'd have him play forward too though, right? Would you play an extra tall forward or just the single tall? The single tall could work (as below).

    If you move the ball quickly enough, it may well work to structure your forwardline like so:

    Spargo Fritta Chandler

    Kozzy Petty Trac

    Campbell resting forward or on the bench. So there's enough forward pressure with Spargo, Kozzy, Trac and Chandler. It puts the onus on our mids and half backs to ensure they don't long bomb. I'd also try and isolate Petty, Kozzy and Trac one out as often as possible.

    This is exactly how Richmond were in 2017 (and they won the flag) - the one tall in the forward line option with Riewoldt (who isn't that tall), but needed a team playing quick footy and applying forward pressure as you suggest.

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    Whilst I agree he did not set the world on fire I am surprised by how many prefer Fullerton ommitted. Our forward line functioned and we did not lose impact when second rucks were in. He leads at the ball carrier and he moves. Rarely did our forwards get in each others way in the air. There is also something about building confidence for him and the team by minimizing changes of a quality team performance. Unless players are not fit (Melksham potential) or are making way for best 18 returns like May and McVee then we should be minimising change as much as possible.

    Edited by Lil_red_fire_engine

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    8 minutes ago, sue said:

    I'm pretty sure I saw him playing in the 3rd quarter, if not longer.

    He did.

    Didn't play the last quarter.

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    1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Glad Fritta is back in.

    Intrigued to see if May is training and if Blake Howes is with the seniors or Casey.

    Judd McVee? Fullarton?

    Howesy came out with Casey.

    Judd and Fullo came out with the seniors. Judd gave me a thumbs up, I very quietly said “tomorrow?” He said “yep!”

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