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Forward line fix?

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On 12/05/2025 at 12:20, greenwaves said:

It's time to accept that Van Rooyen won't be a star. I don't read replies or reactions.

Thats really incredibly arrogant.

"This is my statement, but don't dare comment on it, because I won't listen to anyone and my fingers are in my ears."

Perhaps consider whether it's best to post on forums buddy! If you aren't going to listen or put your words out there for scrutiny, why post in the first place?

For what it's worth and keeping to the conversation, I think Van Rooyen will be ok, he might not be an A grade player. He just seems completely off with timing, and his hands are currently concrete. His kicking isn't terrible, and he's competitive in the ruck. Improvement is not always linear. As a comparison, I don't think Jye Amiss is progressing anywhere near as well as he looked like he would be last year either.

Happy to hear your thoughts ? 😁

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    22 hours ago, beelzebub said:

    Tbh .. the only part I think would/should have been different is Kozzies goal.

    We weren't winning that game.

    IMO
    We didn't get anything going our way (or take the simple opportunities) that allowed us to get momentum flowing. Kozzie's goal, the free that Jiath got when one of our players went for the mark, and we got done for a tunnel or push I think, but the replay showed no contact on him except his leg connecting with someones head and him tumbling.... We should have been 3-5 goals up at 3/4 time, but we were wasteful and the umps missed some clear decisions.

    Not saying that would have changed the way the final quarter played out btw, but not taking opportunities as they come hurt us badly.

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    On 07/11/2024 at 10:02, leave it to deever said:

    Have we picked up a couple of tall fwds yet to fix a problem that I'd say 99 % of supporters agree on.

    That our fwd line has been lacking a big bodied , uninjured, experienced tall player that can compete for the Coleman.

    Perhaps we are missing a decent full forward and chf.

    In any case our fwd line has cost us possibly two flags and has been a problem very much unprofessionally ignored by the club for three years in a row.

    Have the powers to be woken up and done anything about it in the last four months?

    Try the last 32 years! We have only had 2 decent key position forwards since then (Neitz and Hogan).

    And even now when it is patently obvious that we still don't have a good KPF, the club refuses to look at recruiting one in the mid season draft. Maybe we are gun shy after all the failed attempts at recruiting and developing one

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    1 hour ago, dice said:

    refuses to look at recruiting one in the mid season draft.

    2 questions

    A. Do we have a mid season draft pick?

    B. Are there any even half decent KPF talls available?

    C. (third of two questions) Kenterfield, according to some Casey watchers, seems to be developing quicker than one may have thought, especially given his off season illness - is he built like a KPF, even though he has been playing in defence this year? He was recruited as a hopeful KPF as I recall. I appreciate he will be well underdone atm as I don’t think he has had even one AFL preseason.

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    12 hours ago, Ouch! said:

    Thats really incredibly arrogant.

    "This is my statement, but don't dare comment on it, because I won't listen to anyone and my fingers are in my ears."

    Perhaps consider whether it's best to post on forums buddy! If you aren't going to listen or put your words out there for scrutiny, why post in the first place?

    For what it's worth and keeping to the conversation, I think Van Rooyen will be ok, he might not be an A grade player. He just seems completely off with timing, and his hands are currently concrete. His kicking isn't terrible, and he's competitive in the ruck. Improvement is not always linear. As a comparison, I don't think Jye Amiss is progressing anywhere near as well as he looked like he would be last year either.

    Happy to hear your thoughts ? 😁

    I do hope your right about Jvr.

    I mean he's shown more than patches of very good form in the past and been a great set shot.

    Maybe he toned down his agro due to suspensions and that has had an influence.

    I don't know what's happened to him. It has been hard trying to establish oneself as a fwd and then being dragged into the ruck.

    A lot of hope for him to be another David S but it's a pretty high bar. And Roo isn't as big.

    So much pressure on some young kids that it's easy to lose confidence.

    He seems very down . Even his accuracy has gone awry.

    He's not a stand and deliver pack park . He's more a mark from lead fwd and I think we never have enough room or delivery is often too slow.

    I just hope he becomes at least a decent serviceable player at this point in time.

    But expectations have definitely been tempered.

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    26 minutes ago, monoccular said:

    2 questions

    A. Do we have a mid season draft pick?

    B. Are there any even half decent KPF talls available?

    C. (third of two questions) Kenterfield, according to some Casey watchers, seems to be developing quicker than one may have thought, especially given his off season illness - is he built like a KPF, even though he has been playing in defence this year? He was recruited as a hopeful KPF as I recall. I appreciate he will be well underdone atm as I don’t think he has had even one AFL preseason.

    A. Not currently - can change
    B. A few worth looking at in the VFL (McMahon, Garoni, Mason) and in the WAFL (Clarke, Hunter, May)
    C. Unknown quantity with uninspiring previous goalkicking stats in the WAFL

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