5 minutes ago, Macca said:

Rubbish

Don't you ever tire of correcting people. The demonland resident Mr. Correction

But this time you are wrong but won't admit it

Goodwin had a different role in 2021 and that's a fact. And Yze was calling the shots from upstairs. Fact

Give it up Laddie, you're cooked on this argument and have been found out again

Stick to the gossip and your worshipping of Caro & Cornes

And you don't get to decide when a discussion point is over. Who do you think you are?

Um Dazz is ALWAYS ON THE MONEY!

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

Um Dazz is ALWAYS ON THE MONEY!

On who's authority? Yours?

The same person has just spat the dummy and relinquished his membership

Where's the cred?

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

In: Sharp, Lever

Out: Spargo, Turner

Petty captain

2 hours ago, Satan said:

Anyone receive an email from Brad or was I special?

I received one too. Was yours asking you to join a think tank to understand the 6:6:6 rule as well?

1 hour ago, Brenno said:

The drums are really beating now. IMV the following 3 should be the first out:

1. Goody

2. Richo

3. Selwyn

That would be a start, but won't address arguably the clubs biggest problem

T.Lamb 3 votes

Edited 6 hours ago6 hr by fr_ap

Just now, Macca said:

On who's authority? Yours?

The same person has just spat the dummy and relinquished his membership

Where's the cred?

Mate, ON MY AUTHORITY????? No mate, I ALSO will relinquish my membership, coz in my opinion and thats my prerogative I can withdraw my support as is my right if I don't believe we are traveling in the right direction. We aint and as Dazz has outlined his reasons for doing so and I firmly believe we need to replace the coach. The cred is NOT spitting the dummy but rather deciding on an action which if the club took notice, predicates change! WHICH MUST COME!

1 hour ago, Macca said:

Well a few years ago he won a flag for us with an untainted list

Now, the list is a rabble

I'm not expecting the team to improve under a possible new coach ... unless, we trade aggressively and clear out the deadwood (that's if anyone wants them)

Same sort of list? 10 wins Max, bub. They are past their use-by date

The game has passed by many of our players. Most of all we are too slow in the legs. Plodders everywhere

e.g. ... as soon as the Saints woke up yesterday and used their leg speed, we were left floundering. It took one quarter after we had dominated for 3 quarters

We are easily exposed. Goodwin's error is sticking with players who he should have moved on. Being loyal has cost him

I think you're letting Goodwin off the hook. I agree that the senior players have plenty to answer for but Goodwin as senior coach has fostered the environment/culture that has led to this behaviour. There's been plenty written about Goodwin much if which I can't say on here but suffice to say there is reason to think Goodwin's relationship with the players has contributed to this mess.

He is not an overly tactical coach (though has had some innovative moves in his time), his strength seems to be in his player relationship management. If that is not working or has led to the situation that we are in now then you would have to say his role is no longer viable.

I also think you're under selling the list. 14 premiership players out there yesterday (and May and Lever also still on the list). Not overly old so I think painting the list as a "rabble" is selling them short. Not at a level to challenge for a flag but definitely good enough to challenge for finals.

2 hours ago, Satan said:

Anyone receive an email from Brad or was I special?

Yeah I did agree with the Goody threat statement but other than that... TOTALLY SHEEEITHOUSE

Just now, picket fence said:

Yeah I did ,,agree with the Goody threat statement which was a disgraceful attack! But other than that... TOTALLY SHEEEITHOUSE Response to our situation Brad!

Edited 6 hours ago6 hr by picket fence

8 minutes ago, Macca said:

Rubbish

Don't you ever tire of correcting people. The demonland resident Mr. Correction

But this time you are wrong but won't admit it

Goodwin had a different role in 2021 and that's a fact. And Yze was calling the shots from upstairs. Fact

Give it up Laddie, you're cooked on this argument and have been found out again

Stick to the gossip and your worshipping of Caro & Cornes

And you don't get to decide when a discussion point is over. Who do you think you are?

I dont tired from calling people up who make up and spread lies.

You told me to go do my research and I did. My research dating back to the 2020 review which you referenced and again it showed you made it up like you have done plenty of times.

To keep facts as facts. Goodwin did NOT get relegated to coach from the bench in 2021 by higher officials. This is a well known fact.

I do love how you have had to resurface this discussion once again out of nowhere lol.. clearly got you playing perfectly in your head.

Just now, picket fence said:

Mate, ON MY AUTHORITY????? No mate, I ALSO will relinquish my membership, coz in my opinion and thats my prerogative I can withdraw my support as is my right if I don't believe we are traveling in the right direction. We aint and as Dazz has outlined his reasons for doing so and I firmly believe we need to replace the coach. The cred is NOT spitting the dummy but rather deciding on an action which if the club took notice, predicates change! WHICH MUST COME!

Don't punish the club because you're dissatisfied with the coach

If you get your wish, he'll be gone soon enough anyway

I'm totally dissatisfied with the players efforts but won't be becoming a non-member justbbecause they've laid down the tools (and they have)

Here's how it goes ... most of the angst goes against the coach but if the coach is sacked the ire goes to the players

And we aren't going to start winning in a hurry with a new coach so the players can expect the full barrage if we don't start winning

Not individual players either, all of them

8 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Mate, ON MY AUTHORITY????? No mate, I ALSO will relinquish my membership, coz in my opinion and thats my prerogative I can withdraw my support as is my right if I don't believe we are traveling in the right direction. We aint and as Dazz has outlined his reasons for doing so and I firmly believe we need to replace the coach. The cred is NOT spitting the dummy but rather deciding on an action which if the club took notice, predicates change! WHICH MUST COME!

Its the significant drop in memberships since last year that is clearly telling.

Members are clearly voting with their voice.

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

I dont tired from calling people up who make up and spread lies.

You told me to go do my research and I did. My research dating back to the 2020 review which you referenced and again it showed you made it up like you have done plenty of times.

To keep facts as facts. Goodwin did NOT get relegated to coach from the bench in 2021 by higher officials. This is a well known fact.

I do love how you have had to resurface this discussion once again out of nowhere lol.. clearly got you playing perfectly in your head.

I don't care what you've got to say. I usually skim past your posts

And you keep quoting me bud, I'm just replying

You've just chucked in your membership all because you don't like the coach

How childish

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by Macca

Don’t know if this has been posted but here you go:

I hate when mum and dad fight on this forum

3 minutes ago, Macca said:

Don't punish the club because you're dissatisfied with the coach

If you get your wish, he'll be gone soon enough anyway

I'm totally dissatisfied with the players efforts but won't be becoming a non-member justbbecause they've laid down the tools (and they have)

Here's how it goes ... most of the angst goes against the coach but if the coach is sacked the ire goes to the players

And we aren't going to start winning in a hurry with a new coach so the players can expect the full barrage if we don't start winning

Not individual players either, all of them

Mate cant you see??, the playing group is totally fractured, they have had footy instinct drilled out of them and have NO idea what they should be doing and when this happens it is down to the coach! PERIOD!

If I and others dont like happening then the ONLY way to change is to vote with membership downturn!

What else is left???

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by picket fence

12 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I think you're letting Goodwin off the hook. I agree that the senior players have plenty to answer for but Goodwin as senior coach has fostered the environment/culture that has led to this behaviour. There's been plenty written about Goodwin much if which I can't say on here but suffice to say there is reason to think Goodwin's relationship with the players has contributed to this mess.

He is not an overly tactical coach (though has had some innovative moves in his time), his strength seems to be in his player relationship management. If that is not working or has led to the situation that we are in now then you would have to say his role is no longer viable.

I also think you're under selling the list. 14 premiership players out there yesterday (and May and Lever also still on the list). Not overly old so I think painting the list as a "rabble" is selling them short. Not at a level to challenge for a flag but definitely good enough to challenge for finals.

We've won 6 games with a supposedly good list of players. We are chokers

And I'm not a Goodwin fan, I just don't see why he should lose his job when the players have turned into lazy bludgers

It's you who is letting the players off the hook

They are in self-preservation mode and it's clear to see

The flag went to their heads

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by Macca

3 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Mate cant you see??, the playing group is totally fractured, they have had footy instinct drilled out of them and have NO idea what they should be doing and when this happens it is down to the coach! PERIOD!

If I and others dont like happening then the ONLY way to change is to vote with membership downturn!

What else is left???

The players are looking after themselves and are a bunch of lazy no-hopers

Unless we turn the list over we are in for years of pain. This current group is taking us backwards at a rate of knots

1 minute ago, Macca said:

The players are looking after themselves and are a bunch of lazy no-hopers

Unless we turn the list over we are in for years of pain. This current group is taking us backwards at a rate of knots

BECAUSE OF THE COACH MACCA FFS

2 minutes ago, Macca said:

We've won 6 games with a supposedly good list of players. We are chokers

And I'm not a Goodwin fan, I just don't see why he should lose his job when the players have turned into lazy bludgers

It's you who is letting the players off the hook

They are in self-preservation mode and it's clear to see

The flag went to their heads

Goodwin has backed himself into a corner as he has never made tough selection calls. He plays his favourite players, so players are allowed to be poor with no repercussions. Players are performing well below their best and they are a big part of the problem, but this problem was created by Goodwin.

He is the disease that has spread. No fringe player is willing to push their case for selection as they are overlooked, senior players feel untouchable and have a severe case of arrogance. All coach enabled, harnessed and overlooked.

I doubt an interim president and CEO would sack the coach.

We have quietly had our list decimated in terms of 'guns' and likely not Goodwins fault.

Brayshaw - gun ,early retirement,

Jackson - pinched from us when still a 'kid'. Replacements with draft picks combines not performing to his level. One of his strengths was power forward.

ANB - very good player. Family reasons. replacement has been injured.

BB - The exact type of player we need forward now. Unfortunately Petty cannot create separation of the lead like BB and is better suited back.

Issues with Tracc and Oliver probably will not see them back to best until 2026. No guarantee though.

This season we have seen issues with May and Lever missing games and below top form.

McVEE - Not a gun yet but a lot of time injured effecting his performance - same as Windsor.

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

BECAUSE OF THE COACH MACCA FFS

BECAUSE OF THE PLAYERS PICKET FFS

haha

3 minutes ago, Macca said:

BECAUSE OF THE PLAYERS PICKET FFS

haha

RIghto son, whatever u want to believe! Over and out on this one

Cheers P.F

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by picket fence

11 minutes ago, Macca said:

We've won 6 games with a supposedly good list of players. We are chokers

And I'm not a Goodwin fan, I just don't see why he should lose his job when the players have turned into lazy bludgers

It's you who is letting the players off the hook

They are in self-preservation mode and it's clear to see

The flag went to their heads

I'm not letting the players off the hook, I think they are equally as culpable as the footy department.

2 minutes ago, SPC said:

Goodwin has backed himself into a corner as he has never made tough selection calls. He plays his favourite players, so players are allowed to be poor with no repercussions. Players are performing well below their best and they are a big part of the problem, but this problem was created by Goodwin.

He is the disease that has spread. No fringe player is willing to push their case for selection as they are overlooked, senior players feel untouchable and have a severe case of arrogance. All coach enabled, harnessed and overlooked.

Fringe players? I don't see much talent there and there's about 6-8 in the Seniors who are VFL standard as well

But I agree that Goodwin has been too loyal to the (so-called) senior players ... but that doesn't give the players an out as they've decided to check out

The premiership went to their heads and it didn't help when the club (not Goodwin) decided to offer them long term juicy contracts

Chances are we're going to be stuck with a bunch of lame ducks