2024 Phantom Drafts

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54 minutes ago, BW511 said:

This would be a dream scenario for sure, Jagga and Langford!

Is there a world where Langford slides a little due to not having a set position?

Versatility could work against him in an AFL system where roles are assigned very specifically. There’s a number of bigger body/tall mids who have never really cemented themselves

I also wonder with StKilda already having Phillipou is Langford too similar in type. Or if someone trades up for one of StKildas picks will they swoop on another target to get ahead of others or maybe they do it to get their hands on Langford. 

It’s unlikely but I dont feel it’s impossible. 

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11 minutes ago, Dee Boys said:

Why? All the talk recently is they’re heavily into Smillie and would take him over Jagga if they’re both available.

Jagga is still getting linked to their first pick. It becomes talent that early. They can get their Smillie type like Allen (or in a certain scenario Smillie himself) at 10 or 11. 

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1 hour ago, Dee Boys said:

From today’s Herald Sun:

 

Highly-rated Victorian midfielder Jagga Smith is looking increasingly certain to be a top-five draft pick next Wednesday, with Harvey Langford shaping as a potential slider to St Kilda’s first selection.

Smith is believed to have strong interest from Carlton (pick 3), Adelaide (pick 4) and Melbourne (pick 5) and is no longer expected to get past the Demons. 

Richmond is still favoured to select Sam Lalor at pick 1 but has also weighed up Finn O’Sullivan. 

With North Melbourne eyeing Alix Tauru at pick 2, Carlton looks set to have a choice between O’Sullivan, Sid Draper and Smith.

I reckon Carlton take O'Sullivan, Crows take Draper and we choose Smith in this scenario. Blues have to pick O'Sullivan, Walsh's cousin, Crows have to pick Draper SA boy and we pick Smith. Voss going to see Draper is smoke and mirrors. But if they did then Crows take Finn O'Sullivan or a curve ball and take Langford. But I r5eckon JT will take Jagga and hope Langford slides to our next pick.  

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I’ve had the same thought about Smith and Langford, and as unlikely as it is there are scenarios where we get both 

I think it relies on us taking Smith at 5 though as reporting suggests he won’t last past the Saints (whereas this hasn’t been explicitly stated for Langford)

Smilie has been heavily linked to Richmond at 6 so presuming they take him, it would depend on the Saints and their own internal rankings 

It’s not impossible that they rate say Tobie Travaglia or Bo Allan higher than Langford, and/or go with a tall such as an Armstrong 

More likely they just take Langford with one of their picks, but I’ll be doing cartwheels if not 

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3 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

I reckon Carlton take O'Sullivan, Crows take Draper and we choose Smith in this scenario. Blues have to pick O'Sullivan, Walsh's cousin, Crows have to pick Draper SA boy and we pick Smith. Voss going to see Draper is smoke and mirrors. But if they did then Crows take Finn O'Sullivan or a curve ball and take Langford. But I r5eckon JT will take Jagga and hope Langford slides to our next pick.  

No chance Saints let Langford get past 7 or 8. 

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4 minutes ago, 12345_54321 said:

No chance Saints let Langford get past 7 or 8. 

Bad draft choices are always a chance when Stephen Silvagni is your list manager 

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3 minutes ago, demoncat said:

Bad draft choices are always a chance when Stephen Silvagni is your list manager 

JT sitting there just waiting for the Silvagni stuff up rubbing his hands together 

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12 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

Blues have to pick O'Sullivan, Walsh's cousin, 

I've seen this elsewhere as the reason Carlton take FOS, that has to be the dumbest reason ever put forward for a draft selection.

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Thank GOD this [censored] is over in a week

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1 hour ago, 12345_54321 said:

If Smith and Langford were available at our pick, Richmond will offer something over the odds with pick 6 to move to pick 5 so they can select Jagga and we get a pick + Langford. 

Nah they'd do a deal with North for pick 2. Richmond's pick 6 and one of their later ones to ensure a Lawlor/Smith double. They won't do that though because Smith or Langford might fall to 6 anyway. 

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5 minutes ago, Mouseymoo said:

Nah they'd do a deal with North for pick 2. Richmond's pick 6 and one of their later ones to ensure a Lawlor/Smith double. They won't do that though because Smith or Langford might fall to 6 anyway. 

Have heard his name pronounced as both laylor and lawlor, which one is it?

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Just now, RedFox said:

Have heard his name pronounced as both laylor and lawlor, which one is it?

‘Law La”

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7 minutes ago, Mouseymoo said:

Nah they'd do a deal with North for pick 2. Richmond's pick 6 and one of their later ones to ensure a Lawlor/Smith double. They won't do that though because Smith or Langford might fall to 6 anyway. 

Twomey said Richmond won’t go to 2. Adelaide will move for it if they’re set on Draper. 

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5 minutes ago, RedFox said:

Have heard his name pronounced as both laylor and lawlor, which one is it?

The latter

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7 minutes ago, Palace Dees said:

The latter

Sam Latter!?

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15 hours ago, 12345_54321 said:

Shouldn’t ever pick key position players for the sake of it. Harry Armstrong is the best key position prospect, but not a standout by any means. Not to mention his extreme similarities to Jefferson. 

Harry seems to be pretty good at finding space in the forward line to receive a quick clean delivery from an elite mid like Smilie, Reid or Ashcroft. This is a valuable skill, but with the defensive structures at AFL level it's a lot harder to find space than in U18s. Furthermore our forward entries are still awful. So I can see him getting burnt and frustrated. 

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Smith and Allen would be a good result, good foils for each other 

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2 hours ago, old55 said:

I've seen this elsewhere as the reason Carlton take FOS, that has to be the dumbest reason ever put forward for a draft selection.

Second cousin too! First cousin is a stretch, second is just silly 

Vossy is a contest first coach, I reckon Draper is a real chance 

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2 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

JT sitting there just waiting for the Silvagni stuff up rubbing his hands together 

Might want to look to who the Saints recruiting manager is (it’s not Sos)

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2 hours ago, adonski said:

Thank GOD this [censored] is over in a week

You can thank him earlier, only 5 days left.

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2 hours ago, samcantstandya said:

Blues have to pick O'Sullivan, Walsh's cousin, Crows have to pick Draper SA boy 

No they don’t. They might, but they don’t have to.

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3 hours ago, 12345_54321 said:

If Smith and Langford were available at our pick, Richmond will offer something over the odds with pick 6 to move to pick 5 so they can select Jagga and we get a pick + Langford. 

Something like pick 6 and 23 for 5?

Wonder if we'd consider that or just take Jagga ourselves. I'm not wedded to either player so can see the merit if the club can move our pick 79 into the early 20s.

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Could someone do the honours

 

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Just now, adonski said:

Could someone do the honours

 

They have us taking Langford and Armstrong

Interestingly they have FOS slipping to the Saints, with Jagga being taken by Carlton 

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11 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Something like pick 6 and 23 for 5?

Wonder if we'd consider that or just take Jagga ourselves. I'm not wedded to either player so can see the merit if the club can move our pick 79 into the early 20s.

Or a future 2nd or 3rd pick.