I'm hearing pick 43 might be the go. If so unless we need the money keep him. 

  On 04/10/2023 at 04:21, YearOfTheDees said:

I'm hearing pick 43 might be the go. If so unless we need the money keep him. 

Where did you hear that???

  On 04/10/2023 at 04:21, YearOfTheDees said:

I'm hearing pick 43 might be the go. If so unless we need the money keep him. 

Why not just hand them Clarry too?

Pick 43 is utter madness

  On 04/10/2023 at 04:27, TRIGON said:

Where did you hear that???

On one of the news reports this morning. Something about no way they will give 11 which was reported and are playing hard ball. Swans believe we need him gone.

  On 04/10/2023 at 04:35, Jaded No More said:

Why not just hand them Clarry too?

Pick 43 is utter madness

That my point. Swans are playing hard ball when we hold all the cards.

  On 04/10/2023 at 04:42, YearOfTheDees said:

On one of the news reports this morning. Something about no way they will give 11 which was reported and are playing hard ball. Swans believe we need him gone.

Swans can believe what they like, didn’t they see us in the finals!

  On 04/10/2023 at 04:46, Super Sub Schache said:

Swans can believe what they like, didn’t they see us in the finals!

Swans also have 0 ruckman heading into next year. 

  On 04/10/2023 at 04:43, YearOfTheDees said:

That my point. Swans are playing hard ball when we hold all the cards.

Except we showed them our cards in the finals with our non selection of Grundy. They know the relationship is toxic. 

Edited October 4, 20231 yr by Earl Hood

My preference would be to keep him unless the deal improves our list. Ie we need the $650k for a key forward that is available this trade period 

  On 04/10/2023 at 04:47, Jaded No More said:

Swans also have 0 ruckman heading into next year. 

It was a joke, calm your farm.

  On 04/10/2023 at 04:57, Super Sub Schache said:

It was a joke, calm your farm.

I wasn’t being facetious I was saying that Grundy is worth more to the Swans than he is to us. 
They have no right to low ball us. We can afford to keep him, even if we don’t want to. 

  On 04/10/2023 at 04:58, Jaded No More said:

I wasn’t being facetious I was saying that Grundy is worth more to the Swans than he is to us. 
They have no right to low ball us. We can afford to keep him, even if we don’t want to. 

But you just don’t do that. You don’t keep players just because we can, and at the expense of greater needs. The Swans know this. However, we also know that they do not have a ruck. I’d be surprised if we offloaded Grundy for 43. That being said, I’d be more surprised if we held firm on for the sake of a better pick. Sydney probably have the upper hand.

Edited October 4, 20231 yr by KingDingAling

  On 04/10/2023 at 05:10, KingDingAling said:

But you just don’t do that. You don’t keep players just because we can, and at the expense of greater needs. The Swans know this. However, we also know that they do not have a ruck. I’d be surprised if we offloaded Grundy for 43. That being said, I’d be more surprised if we held firm on for the sake of a better pick. Sydney probably have the upper hand.

I think it will be for pick 31, just my opinion 

  On 04/10/2023 at 05:10, KingDingAling said:

But you just don’t do that. You don’t keep players just because we can, and at the expense of greater needs. The Swans know this. However, we also know that they do not have a ruck. I’d be surprised if we offloaded Grundy for 43. That being said, I’d be more surprised if we held firm on for the sake of a better pick. Sydney probably have the upper hand.

Of course not. But Grundy also has other suitors. If we say mate we aren’t giving you away for a packet of chips go find another club who will deal with us, he will have to do that.  Geelong need a ruck. Port need a ruck. West Coast need a ruck. 
 

Sydney need a ruck if they are to compete next year and be in contention. Pick 43 is a slap in the face. 

  On 04/10/2023 at 05:13, Nascent said:

I think it will be for pick 31, just my opinion 

That’s unders, his value should have gone up given he is now injury free 

  On 04/10/2023 at 05:13, Jaded No More said:

Of course not. But Grundy also has other suitors. If we say mate we aren’t giving you away for a packet of chips go find another club who will deal with us, he will have to do that.  Geelong need a ruck. Port need a ruck. West Coast need a ruck. 
 

Sydney need a ruck if they are to compete next year and be in contention. Pick 43 is a slap in the face. 

Port don’t have the currency. They have few picks and also have a raft of players ‘potentially’ heading their way. West Coast I don’t think would be interested, and likewise Grundy. Geelong would be a good fit, if they could sell that lifestyle to Grundy.

  On 04/10/2023 at 05:35, KingDingAling said:

Port don’t have the currency. They have few picks and also have a raft of players ‘potentially’ heading their way. West Coast I don’t think would be interested, and likewise Grundy. Geelong would be a good fit, if they could sell that lifestyle to Grundy.

Who doesn’t love a farm?

  On 04/10/2023 at 05:36, Jaded No More said:

Who doesn’t love a farm?

An inner city hippie.

  On 04/10/2023 at 05:37, KingDingAling said:

An inner city hippie.

Nah hobby farms are very on trend. Hippies living a nice sustainable life. Growing lemons and kale for their organic smoothies. 

  On 04/10/2023 at 04:58, Jaded No More said:

I wasn’t being facetious I was saying that Grundy is worth more to the Swans than he is to us. 
They have no right to low ball us. We can afford to keep him, even if we don’t want to. 

They are getting JJ too, and we are giving them a bloke that can go into their ramshackle forward line and kick goals for them like  he did for us, which brings me to the point of why if Grundy can learn how to kick a heap more goals over summer and preseason why don't we just say he is required so look elsewhere.

I have my suspicions  about how the MFC goes about  trades etc...  You start at where you ideally would like to finish ...in terms of players and picks, not so much the other way around.. So from the desired outcome you trace backwards as to what paths might get you there ( or thereabouts).  The Dees are very astute in all of this ( so my observing of recent times.... even Grundy...well executed trade etc...just the result...but the trade aspect..well done )  they understand picks are all numbers and fluid and the same pick can have different values to diferent clubs as they have different opportunites and needs.  Its a bit like snakes and ladders...Melbounre looks to increase its value whilst facilitating others ( where amicable ) to do likewise. This is not a war per se...it's a game  better to WIN-win..than win-lose.  Many seem fixated on a specific value  for Brodie....   but it will end up being how anything we get can be further  on traded-upgraded when packaged.

Brodie for want of another description becomes a cog of a wheel...not a wheel by itself.

This is why trade week often takes so long and goes to the wire......because no man is an island..Everything interconnects

All picks have a prescribed value,..and an intrinsic value.

Going to be fascinating  , as always , seeing how this goes

Whatever...good luck Grundy...thanks for the visit.

Edited October 5, 20231 yr by beelzebub

  On 04/10/2023 at 05:39, Jaded No More said:

Nah hobby farms are very on trend. Hippies living a nice sustainable life. Growing lemons and kale for their organic smoothies. 

How’d you know?

I just want this spud off our list. He gave us very little and he still smells like a Collingwood player. I’ll boo him at my pleasure next year 😂

Swans to play "hard-ball", Sam Landsberger was the writer (is a WBD supporter, has been very critical of Demons since flag)

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-period-brodie-grundy-offer-joel-hamling-requests-trade-to-sydney/news-story/979f13e78db8ae0e6ddd04f42ecc4cb6

Sydney is closing in on a premiership defender after missing out on Ben McKay as the Swans also prepare to play hardball on unwanted Demon Brodie Grundy.

The Herald Sun can reveal that uncontracted Fremantle defender Joel Hamling, who played in the Western Bulldogs’ 2016 premiership side.

The Swans will also sign Melbourne midfielder James Jordon – who is another premiership player (2021) – as they look to spike next season.

Jordon is also eligible to be signed as a free agent. The Swans are also certain to secure Grundy in a trade with the Demons.

The Swans hold picks No.11, 23, 31, 42 and 50 in this year’s draft.

 

There is a belief that given Schache was preferred to dual All-Australian Grundy in the Melbourne’s best 23, and the Demons need the dual All-Australian’s salary off their books, that their bargaining power is minimal.

A pick as low as No.31 or 42 is likely to get that deal done.

  On 05/10/2023 at 02:50, Roost it far said:

I just want this spud off our list. He gave us very little and he still smells like a Collingwood player. I’ll boo him at my pleasure next year 😂

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