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34 minutes ago, dieter said:

Um, don't take anything for granted. Most of the optimistic annunciations have come from Politicians and in Europe those same Politicians are talking about renewed pre-Christmas lockdowns. I ain't Cassandra, by the way, I'm reporting what is. 

The real problem the world faces is that Pandemics are not about THE ECONOMY.

The countries that are on the verge of going into lockdown again are those countries that haven't got enough people vaccinated

The 'Age' has a free to read vaccination rate segment for all countries.  As well as the details involving Australia.  Google will help with daily Covid cases per day

Germany & the UK for instance only have 'about' 2/3rds of its peoples vaccinated

So in real terms that means that the UK has about 23 million unvaccinated with Germany sitting at about 27 million unvaccinated.  Covid cases are high as a result ... often 40,000+ per day.  That number is obviously too high. 

Covid cases today in the USA hit 119,000 but only 58.74% of Americans are double vaccinated

By contrast Portugal has approximately  87.54% double vaxxed and only 291 covid cases today.  The UAE is sitting at 89.3% double vaxxed with 2698 cases of covid today

Here in Australia we are heading for a 95% vaccination rate for those aged 16 and over (and once those aged 12 and under are vaccinated we'll be at 95% right across the board)

Only 178 covid cases in NSW today

Make of those numbers what you will but the trends I see gives me confidence

By the time we're done we could be in front of just about every country in the world.  Setting a fine example

Even with the slow availability of the vaccine along with hesitancy rates, NSW is nearly at 92% double vaxxed and Victoria has almost caught up (just on 89% double vaxxed)

I'm a born realist so unless another strain of covid appears, I can't see us going into lockdown again

So the message is for everyone to do their civic duty and get vaccinated. It's the only way we can curtail this virus

In footy terms we'll be able to go the games next season at our leisure ... with a high probability of seeing the Demons go back to back

 

 

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4 hours ago, dieter said:

Um, don't take anything for granted. Most of the optimistic annunciations have come from Politicians and in Europe those same Politicians are talking about renewed pre-Christmas lockdowns. I ain't Cassandra, by the way, I'm reporting what is. 

The real problem the world faces is that Pandemics are not about THE ECONOMY.

 

2 hours ago, Macca said:

The countries that are on the verge of going into lockdown again are those countries that haven't got enough people vaccinated

The 'Age' has a free to read vaccination rate segment for all countries.  As well as the details involving Australia.  Google will help with daily Covid cases per day

Germany & the UK for instance only have 'about' 2/3rds of its peoples vaccinated

So in real terms that means that the UK has about 23 million unvaccinated with Germany sitting at about 27 million unvaccinated.  Covid cases are high as a result ... often 40,000+ per day.  That number is obviously too high. 

Covid cases today in the USA hit 119,000 but only 58.74% of Americans are double vaccinated

By contrast Portugal has approximately  87.54% double vaxxed and only 291 covid cases today.  The UAE is sitting at 89.3% double vaxxed with 2698 cases of covid today

Here in Australia we are heading for a 95% vaccination rate for those aged 16 and over (and once those aged 12 and under are vaccinated we'll be at 95% right across the board)

Only 178 covid cases in NSW today

Make of those numbers what you will but the trends I see gives me confidence

By the time we're done we could be in front of just about every country in the world.  Setting a fine example

Even with the slow availability of the vaccine along with hesitancy rates, NSW is nearly at 92% double vaxxed and Victoria has almost caught up (just on 89% double vaxxed)

I'm a born realist so unless another strain of covid appears, I can't see us going into lockdown again

So the message is for everyone to do their civic duty and get vaccinated. It's the only way we can curtail this virus

In footy terms we'll be able to go the games next season at our leisure ... with a high probability of seeing the Demons go back to back

 

 

Dieter, I actually like most of your posts, but this is clearly incorrect. People losing their homes and businesses should ALWAYS be a consideration during a pandemic. Or don't you thing that's important also?

And Macca/Dieter, as much as I hate to admit it, I think the seemingly endless lockdowns and threats have "encouraged" ie: coerced many Australians to take the vax even though they had reservations. We are clearly one of the best in the world at takeup, and this should surely see us at the top of the list for border relaxation around the world. At least I hope this is the case. I live in a region that relies HEAVILY on tourism, and I would love to see all of you up here in the beautiful Whitsundays experiencing the reef/tropics and our awesome nightlife sometime soon.

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7 hours ago, Macca said:

The countries that are on the verge of going into lockdown again are those countries that haven't got enough people vaccinated

Hmm. Yes, but not as simple as that. Not all these countries have the same take-up (or rules) when it comes to non-vax measures, especially masking. e.g., the difference between what you see on the Tube in London and the Metro in Paris is night and day. Same for things like cinemas, there's a big difference across countries. As for schools, in France, masks are compulsory, in Austria not (or not all the time). etc. etc.

Sticking with kids, there's also a difference in vax rates. France, Spain and Italy have over double the vax rates of 12-17 year olds than say, Germany.

On top of all that though, the main reason is that it's now winter. Everyone's cooped up indoors, ventilation is non-existent, and just as in 2020, and as we see every year with viruses like flu, rates go through the roof in Europe at this time of year. One of the reasons why the mediterranean countries like Spain and Italy are doing better for the moment, but presumably even they will feel the pinch once we get into December.

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As faulty mentioned, we have a very high vaccination/take up rate and as we know, the vaccination works so it then just becomes a matter of how many get the vaccine

A 59% vaccination rate in the USA and around 70% for a number of European nations isn't going to work.  So the pandemic will continue on for the unvaccinated in those countries.

A pandemic for the unvaccinated

Covid will continue on in Australia as well but the numbers won't be high as there is a real chance that only about 5% will be unvaccinated.  7% tops.  Real numbers are trending strongly in that direction

And we have brought in measures that will encourage the unvaccinated to get the jab.  Effectively, another form of lockdown for those refusing the jab is now in place

No vaccine certificate, no entry

Hating on and pouring scorn on the unvaccinated isn't the answer though.  Gentle persuasion with positive incentives brought in can work.  Along with the education process showing these people that the vaccines are effective and safe

But Covid is out there and is everywhere (More so in Vic & NSW) so mask wearing along with a cautious attitude when applicable is still needed (in my view)

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2 minutes ago, Macca said:

As faulty mentioned, we have a very high vaccination/take up rate and as we know, the vaccination works so it then just becomes a matter of how many get the vaccine

But as we're seeing, vax in itself isn't enough. Still need everything else: masking, social distancing,  etc., especially in enclosed spaces.

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1 minute ago, bing181 said:

Hmm. Yes, but not as simple as that. Not all these countries have the same take-up (or rules) when it comes to non-vax measures, especially masking. e.g., the difference between what you see on the Tube in London and the Metro in Paris is night and day. Same for things like cinemas, there's a big difference across countries. As for schools, in France, masks are compulsory, in Austria not (or not all the time). etc. etc.

Sticking with kids, there's also a difference in vax rates. France, Spain and Italy have over double the vax rates of 12-17 year olds than say, Germany.

On top of all that though, the main reason is that it's now winter. Everyone's cooped up indoors, ventilation is non-existent, and just as in 2020, and as we see every year with viruses like flu, rates go through the roof in Europe at this time of year.

Yes there is nuance with different measures still in place in different countries but having close on a 3rd of the people unvaccinated is asking for trouble.  There are still outliers either way but the aim has to be 90%+ vaccinated

Even at 80% vaccinated the effectiveness of covid is greatly reduced. 

Bottom line is that Australia is heading for 95% vaccinated where as a country like the USA may not ever get to 65% vaccinated.  Real numbers that point to real outcomes

We'll possibly level out out at 500-1000 cases per day in Australia (because of our vaccination rates) where as the USA had 119,000 cases yesterday (as an example)

The next big task in Australia is getting those aged 12 years or younger vaccinated.  And we need to do that as quickly as possible

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11 minutes ago, bing181 said:

But as we're seeing, vax in itself isn't enough. Still need everything else: masking, social distancing,  etc., especially in enclosed spaces.

You edited out the bit where I mentioned ongoing mask wearing with a cautious ongoing approach (in Australia)

Personally, I'm not going into party mode but if I was still in my mid 20's it would almost certainly be a different story.  Even with the double jab, I do not want to contract covid under any circumstances

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1 hour ago, bing181 said:

Hmm. Yes, but not as simple as that

Yes it is. All of us will get the virus, or at least be exposed, many of whom will not become symptomatic or even test positive if they’re vaccinated. As @Maccasays, the societal burden of the illness - hospitalisation, death, and the subsequent need for lockdowns to control that eventuality - that which is currently being talked about and implemented in Europe is entirely on the back of unvaccinated numbers being too high. What these new ‘waves’ overseas are telling us is just how high the vaccinated population percentage needs to be to allow ‘normality’. We’re heading toward 95%, and even higher. Of course ‘spread control’ measures - masks and distancing - are important to slow population infection, but there is ONLY ONE way to negate the broader societal effect, the pandemic in the pandemic if you will, and that is massed vaccination. People are beginning to get the idea here, but jeez it’s frustrating how some (particularly overseas) just don’t. For self, for others, for societal ‘freedom’ - every single aspect of it - the solution couldn’t be more blindingly obvious. Oh, and if 99% of the over-12’s are vaccinated, it couldn’t matter less that the under-12’s aren’t. Evidence now tells us that even with Delta, kids mostly get a sniffle and a headache for a day, then come good and with antibody resistance to reinfection (for how long, who knows, so there should still be longer-term vaccination for them of course). 

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11 hours ago, Macca said:

The countries that are on the verge of going into lockdown again are those countries that haven't got enough people vaccinated

 

 

 

I take your point: Singapore, though, is proving to be a fly in the 'Vacc' ointment. It's warm there, no sign of Winter Covid and  my understanding is they have an extremely high Vacc rate,  yet the numbers are suddenly very high again...

Once again, I don't want to do the Cassandra gig, it's just that the history of how to deal with pandemics has proven to be much more complicated than the bland optimism of many snake oil  Statesmen.

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8 hours ago, faultydet said:

 

Dieter, I actually like most of your posts, but this is clearly incorrect. People losing their homes and businesses should ALWAYS be a consideration during a pandemic. Or don't you thing that's important also?

 

Mister Faulty, I agree entirely that people losing their homes and businesses is sad and debilitating and drastic. It's just that I know too many people in the medical and auxiliary professions, who are very tired of politicians talking about this pandemic just in terms of 'The Economy.'

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11 hours ago, Macca said:

The countries that are on the verge of going into lockdown again are those countries that haven't got enough people vaccinated

The 'Age' has a free to read vaccination rate segment for all countries.  As well as the details involving Australia.  Google will help with daily Covid cases per day

Germany & the UK for instance only have 'about' 2/3rds of its peoples vaccinated

So in real terms that means that the UK has about 23 million unvaccinated with Germany sitting at about 27 million unvaccinated.  Covid cases are high as a result ... often 40,000+ per day.  That number is obviously too high. 

Covid cases today in the USA hit 119,000 but only 58.74% of Americans are double vaccinated

By contrast Portugal has approximately  87.54% double vaxxed and only 291 covid cases today.  The UAE is sitting at 89.3% double vaxxed with 2698 cases of covid today

Here in Australia we are heading for a 95% vaccination rate for those aged 16 and over (and once those aged 12 and under are vaccinated we'll be at 95% right across the board)

Only 178 covid cases in NSW today

Make of those numbers what you will but the trends I see gives me confidence

By the time we're done we could be in front of just about every country in the world.  Setting a fine example

Even with the slow availability of the vaccine along with hesitancy rates, NSW is nearly at 92% double vaxxed and Victoria has almost caught up (just on 89% double vaxxed)

I'm a born realist so unless another strain of covid appears, I can't see us going into lockdown again

So the message is for everyone to do their civic duty and get vaccinated. It's the only way we can curtail this virus

In footy terms we'll be able to go the games next season at our leisure ... with a high probability of seeing the Demons go back to back

 

 

Probably/ possibly with advances in the vaccination tweaks and other interventions even a new strain will only see the targeted lockdowns we are being  told to accept now.

Other than that though " high probability  of back to back " seems wildly optomistic.

Double chance yes,but as we speak opposition coaches with an eye to finals are analysing the Dees game in a way they could never be bothered to do previously.

A few injuries and we' re  ripe ...

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11 minutes ago, dieter said:

I take your point: Singapore, though, is proving to be a fly in the 'Vacc' ointment. It's warm there, no sign of Winter Covid and  my understanding is they have an extremely high Vacc rate,  yet the numbers are suddenly very high again...

Once again, I don't want to do the Cassandra gig, it's just that the history of how to deal with pandemics has proven to be much more complicated than the bland optimism of many snake oil  Statesmen.

Well my view is a realistic view ... using raw data and real numbers. 

In real terms many countries have far too many of its citizens unvaccinated.  We in Australia won't have that issue. 

An optimist might proclaim that the pandemic is over or perhaps deny that we ever had a problem in the first place (although I'd have a more apt description for the latter category)

And I reckon we could reach 96% or 97% vaccinated if we brought in some positive incentives for the unvaccinated.  The disincentives would however be having an effect.  Reality sinks in eventually

With some, you'll never change their minds.  The pandemic will never be over for those types as covid isn't going to die off

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15 minutes ago, IRW said:

Probably/ possibly with advances in the vaccination tweaks and other interventions even a new strain will only see the targeted lockdowns we are being  told to accept now.

Other than that though " high probability  of back to back " seems wildly optomistic.

Double chance yes,but as we speak opposition coaches with an eye to finals are analysing the Dees game in a way they could never be bothered to do previously.

A few injuries and we' re  ripe ...

Yeah well, I was being slightly flippant adding in a light-hearted prediction in a thread that is a tad serious

But of course we can go back-to-back all things being equal. I reckon our biggest issue is if we sit back.  The talent and know-how is better than the rest (right now) 

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3 hours ago, Webber said:

Yes it is. All of us will get the virus, or at least be exposed, many of whom will not become symptomatic or even test positive if they’re vaccinated. As @Maccasays, the societal burden of the illness - hospitalisation, death, and the subsequent need for lockdowns to control that eventuality - that which is currently being talked about and implemented in Europe is entirely on the back of unvaccinated numbers being too high. What these new ‘waves’ overseas are telling us is just how high the vaccinated population percentage needs to be to allow ‘normality’. We’re heading toward 95%, and even higher. Of course ‘spread control’ measures - masks and distancing - are important to slow population infection, but there is ONLY ONE way to negate the broader societal effect, the pandemic in the pandemic if you will, and that is massed vaccination. People are beginning to get the idea here, but jeez it’s frustrating how some (particularly overseas) just don’t. For self, for others, for societal ‘freedom’ - every single aspect of it - the solution couldn’t be more blindingly obvious. Oh, and if 99% of the over-12’s are vaccinated, it couldn’t matter less that the under-12’s aren’t. Evidence now tells us that even with Delta, kids mostly get a sniffle and a headache for a day, then come good and with antibody resistance to reinfection (for how long, who knows, so there should still be longer-term vaccination for them of course). 

My only concern is that unless those 12yo or younger get vaccinated they have a greater chance of contracting the disease (albeit in a much milder way)  More so aged 5 - 11

And of course if they bring the disease home to unvaccinated family members, the disease keeps spreading

There was an article about a week or 2 ago where high profile health professionals from 4 effected countries warned Australia about the measures we still had to put in place ... one of those measures was to get the young vaccinated.  The other issues surrounded keeping vigil on safeguards and to not let our guard down

But we're coming up to school holidays so I'm expecting a mass vaccination of the children once the new school year starts.  There was talk of late 2021 (Pfizer) but no approval yet

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1 hour ago, IRW said:

Probably/ possibly with advances in the vaccination tweaks and other interventions even a new strain will only see the targeted lockdowns we are being  told to accept now.

And let's not forget the huge game-changer ... Molnupiravir.  Already available for emergencies and just approved in the UK

And I don't even want to think about a new strain IRW ... all bets are off if that happens!

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1 hour ago, dieter said:

Mister Faulty, I agree entirely that people losing their homes and businesses is sad and debilitating and drastic. It's just that I know too many people in the medical and auxiliary professions, who are very tired of politicians talking about this pandemic just in terms of 'The Economy.'

There is not a single politician who has spoken about this pandemic "just in terms of 'The Economy"

Your medical and auxiliary professional friends are full of [censored].

The voices for the economic impact have just got louder the longer the lockdowns have dragged on, and rightly so.

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5 hours ago, bing181 said:

But as we're seeing, vax in itself isn't enough. Still need everything else: masking, social distancing,  etc., especially in enclosed spaces.

People can say what they like about our Premier, but thank God we don't require those face diapers up here in Queensland where I am.

In this entire pandemic, our region has had to mask up for a grand total of 7 days from memory, unless entering a testing facility.

Viruses such as Covid do not enjoy warm climates it seems. Europe can have their winter snow. I'll take the Covid-free heat thanks very much.

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49 minutes ago, faultydet said:

There is not a single politician who has spoken about this pandemic "just in terms of 'The Economy"

Your medical and auxiliary professional friends are full of [censored].

The voices for the economic impact have just got louder the longer the lockdowns have dragged on, and rightly so.

And I cannot blame anyone for talking through their hip-pocket.  A lot of people have gone out of business because of the lockdowns

You just have to let people vent in these special circumstances

I know a couple who own a gym and there were a few times where they were staring at bankruptcy... somehow they have scraped through (but they are heavily out-of-pocket)

One of 1000's of stories ... their dreams squashed.  They either do something else or start all over again

Part of the protest group?  High probability for many (in my view)

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16 minutes ago, faultydet said:

People can say what they like about our Premier, but thank God we don't require those face diapers up here in Queensland where I am.

In this entire pandemic, our region has had to mask up for a grand total of 7 days from memory, unless entering a testing facility.

Viruses such as Covid do not enjoy warm climates it seems. Europe can have their winter snow. I'll take the Covid-free heat thanks very much.

You be looking at masks the wrong way Faulty, they are a fashion item  ..mix and match with shirt and socks    or even knickers if you're a lady off to the nightclub to meet a new friend...the final gradual unveiling would be excellent. 

But then I'm old with a vivid imagination .( smile)

No doubt there is a hot weather advantage  though,my Maleny friends keep asking questions  and one came down here for 3 months to care for her sister and found it eye opening ( to say the least)

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With regards to the footy re covid

Crowds will be back but capacity crowds can't be expected or to be concerned about (at least in the short term)

A certain percentage will be covid-shy and won't want to be subjected to crowded situations (more so the over 55's)

That thinking could change though if the covid cases drop to much lower levels (specifically here in Victoria and to a lesser extent, NSW*)

And more people are now used to watching live sport at home in HD on huge screens ... a much cheaper alternative

I can see membership sales being maintained and/or increased though (across the board)  That connection and support will be continued

We could hit 60k-65k members but will we pack out the MCG consistently?  Initially yes but after that?

 

*A healthy attendance of 24k attended the Western Sydney Wanderers vs Sydney FC game last night

 

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1 hour ago, Macca said:

And let's not forget the huge game-changer ... Molnupiravir.  Already available for emergencies and just approved in the UK

Production is the issue here as usual Macca. Needs to be given early and will likely be rationed to those with very high risk.

2022 is increasingly looking like a year which the world will stumble through.

After two years of no meaningful travel my patience is almost exhausted.

Might do a long roadtrip through the USA around March including Mexico perhaps.

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1 hour ago, faultydet said:

There is not a single politician who has spoken about this pandemic "just in terms of 'The Economy"

Your medical and auxiliary professional friends are full of [censored].

The voices for the economic impact have just got louder the longer the lockdowns have dragged on, and rightly so.

They are not full of (censored0) at all. In fact, they are exhausted and overworked and have to wear the full protective regalia all day long, and, just for the record, Frydenburg and Scomo have regularly referred to 'getting the economy' kick started again.

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2 minutes ago, dieter said:

That's precisely what I'm referring to...

You worry too much dieter

Deal with what you need to deal with and stop concerning yourself with doomsday thinking

 

 

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    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 27

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    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The boys dissected the clinical thrashing of Hawks praising the immense performance of Christian Petracca whilst lamenting the injury toll to our defensive unit ... LISTEN

    Demonland | March 26

  • Training  

    Monday, 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • Casey Report      

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • PreGame      

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head out on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out? ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 28

  • Match Report      

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Post Game      

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Votes      

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Game Day      

    GAMEDAY: Round 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Training  

    Friday, 22nd March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin and I attended the Captain's Run at Gosch's Paddock on this lovely sunny morning to bring you the following observations from the training session ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 22

  • Training  

    Tuesday, 19th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin & Walking Civil War attended Tuesday morning's training session at Gosch's Paddock to bring you the following observations ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 19

  • Training  

    Saturday, 16th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Dee Zephyr wandered down to Gosch's Paddock on Saturday morning to bring you their observations from the Captain's Run in the lead up to Sunday's Round One match against the Bulldogs ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 16

  • Farewell  

    Angus Brayshaw Retires

    After 167 games including the drought breaking Premiership Angus Brayshaw has made the heart breaking decision to medically retire from football as a result of a series of serious head knocks over his nearly decade of footy. We wish Gus all the best and he'll always be a hero at Demonland ... READ MORE

    Demonland | February 22

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Koltyn Tholstrup Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club’s newest recruit Koltyn Tholstrup to have a chat about his journey from the farm to the Demons, his first few weeks of preseason training, which Dees have impressed him on the track and his aspirations of playing Round 1 ... LISTEN

    Demonland | December 14

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Jason Taylor Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club's National Recruitment Manager Jason Taylor to have a chat about our Trade and Draft period, our newest recruits, our recent recruits who have yet to debut as well as those father son prospects on the horizon ... LISTEN

    Demonland | November 27

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      PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
    Jake Lever Knee Test
    Clayton Oliver Hand Test
    Oliver Sestan Concussion Test
    Steven May Ribs 1 Week
    Lachie Hunter Calf 1 Week
    Daniel Turner Hip 2-3 Weeks
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    Shane McAdam Hamstring 3-5 Weeks
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    Jake Melksham ACL 12-14 Weeks
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    1 Christian Petracca 27
    2 Steven May 25
    3 Max Gawn 21
    4 Jack Viney 20
    5 Bayley Fritsch 19
    6 Clayton Oliver 18
    7 Christian Salem 12
    8 Blake Howes 11
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