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8 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

Toumpas was not a skilled footballer unless you say someone who cant mark, kicks 30 metres and cant get his own ball is skilled.

Toumpas' hype pre-draft was all about his skill.

So, for example, Knightmare (a well-known draft analyser) said this about him: "Skill level excellent by both hand and foot, has that combination of hurt factor with the penetrating kick he has and clean ball use that will make him a big time weapon".

Footy Almanac said: "He uses the ball by hand and foot excellent, can play inside and outside, while his poise and endurance are superb".

It appears your analysis here is based on hindsight, which is precisely what should be avoided when discussing drafting decisions.

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    On 10/20/2020 at 1:30 PM, picket fence said:

    Whats Jimmy Toumpas doing nowdays??

    Won a flag with Woodville West Torrens in SANFL on Sunday.

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    3 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

    Toumpas' hype pre-draft was all about his skill.

    So, for example, Knightmare (a well-known draft analyser) said this about him: "Skill level excellent by both hand and foot, has that combination of hurt factor with the penetrating kick he has and clean ball use that will make him a big time weapon".

    Footy Almanac said: "He uses the ball by hand and foot excellent, can play inside and outside, while his poise and endurance are superb".

    It appears your analysis here is based on hindsight, which is precisely what should be avoided when discussing drafting decisions.

    Well, so what. I took one look first game and thought he was undersized, soft and underwhelming. Had a few tricks that got found out in no time. Skilled by foot, yeah 30 metre kicks.

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    15 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

    Is it rocket science.

    Who would have taken NicNat over Watts?  me

    Who took one look at the Greek boy from SA and said, No. me

    Who thought Viney and Wines together was a no brainer and would set up the bash and crash mids for a decade.

    Who was ever so slightly underwhelmed when they  saw Jessie for the first time, me. Looked good but not the generational hulking forward promised.

    Who thought Grimes bro was worth a look, me.

    Who thinks Smith is worth the 3 years considering where we are at still needing steady nerves at the death. me

    Who is not overly excited at Brown,  me.

    And these blokes do it as a professional living.

     

    no one asked

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    6 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

    A much-hyped Naitanui was invited to the 2008 AFL Draft Camp and his results were impressive. He managed to equal the running vertical jump record previously set by Jared Brennan, but fell short of Trent Croad's standing jump record. His sprint, agility and endurance tests were also impressive.

    Many media commentators believed that Naitanui was in contention to be taken as the number 1 pick in the 2008 AFL Draft.[6] The Melbourne Football Club, who retained that pick, had looked at Naitanui, but raised concerns about his skill level, in particular his kicking, and instead selected Victorian Jack Watts.

    Meaningless quote. We just could not resist the Brighton Grammar boy with the blond hair. And the idiots at melb had to justify by saying the young ruckman, NicNat  had a kicking skill issue. As we know, ruckman are renowned for their kicking skills. Hopeless. Argue all you like. I would have taken NicNat and he turned out the better player

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    6 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

    Well, so what. I took one look first game and thought he was undersized, soft and underwhelming. Had a few tricks that got found out in no time. Skilled by foot, yeah 30 metre kicks.

    I also didnt like what i saw in Toumpas and wanted Wines HFF but some on here seem to know more and love excuses

    We then wasted time hanging on to him Was never going to make it in my opinion

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    5 minutes ago, Kent said:

    I also didnt like what i saw in Toumpas and wanted Wines HFF but some on here seem to know more and love excuses

    We then wasted time hanging on to him Was never going to make it in my opinion

    Lost opportunity, and a big one. Viney wanted Wines, not that that should dictate but what it would have done is set the grunt up for a decade, and then focus on the more skilled mids and outside players. Gee, some on here hang on to draft guides , useless stats and game reports out SA, for ..... sake.

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    the intangible that’s not measured in stats is INTENSITY.  That’s what was lacking with Watts, Hogan, Toumpas.  All good players but the intense desire to drive yourself, get better, work hard and then work hard again.

    I look for that quality and then surround it with the other stats.  

    Wines had intensity and was the DL 90% choice so it remains very disappointing. 

    That’s why I don’t rate players like Eric Hipwood. Great athlete but poor intensity at the contest. I rate Charlie Dixon. He brings it every week. 

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    1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    the intangible that’s not measured in stats is INTENSITY.  That’s what was lacking with Watts, Hogan, Toumpas.  All good players but the intense desire to drive yourself, get better, work hard and then work hard again.

    I look for that quality and then surround it with the other stats.  

    Wines had intensity and was the DL 90% choice so it remains very disappointing. 

    That’s why I don’t rate players like Eric Hipwood. Great athlete but poor intensity at the contest. I rate Charlie Dixon. He brings it every week. 

    Off topic, but I'm sure if we turn our minds to it, we could completely re-cast the Harry Potter movies. We've already seen Chris Judd as Voldemort. I'm convinced Charlie Dixon could play Hagrid with no additional special effects to make him look like a giant.

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    On 10/21/2020 at 1:44 PM, Half forward flank said:

    Toumpas was not a skilled footballer unless you say someone who cant mark, kicks 30 metres and cant get his own ball is skilled.

    Wont be my blood that spills

    Just so you know about  Toumpas he had skill but you have to know how to use it.

    He was never a good Greek fighter on the field.   Another wasted 1st rounder.

     

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    19 minutes ago, nosoupforme said:

    Just so you know about  Toumpas he had skill but you have to know how to use it.

    He was never a good Greek fighter on the field.   Another wasted 1st rounder.

     

    beware of Greeks bearing gifts

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