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  On 22/06/2020 at 14:41, ding said:

We are miles off.

One of the worst forward lines in the league atm. Backline has some good names, but is almost as dysfunctional. Midfield looks pretty good, and that is where most premierships are won, but we badly need a few of them (our mids) to become regular goal kickers for us to be some sort of threat.

This current list still needs to be churned over the next few off-seasons. I had my fingers crossed a couple of years back that we were In the window, but each step forward is such a tiny one. There have been no great gains for a long time. If you are waiting for this group to just "Click" you are barking up the wrong tree i reckon. Too many who still want to run one way, and no on-field leadership other than Max, unless you count all the Finger-pointers as leaders.

Where are my anti-depressants......?

I stole them ding!

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      On 22/06/2020 at 14:11, goodwindees said:

    So you don’t rate Last years Pick 3. 

    He is a kid who has now played one game above under 18's. He will take 2-3 years to develop. Then we should know if he is more than useful.

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      On 22/06/2020 at 23:40, P-man said:

    I don’t think we are a mile off as my Demonland brethren above think. Even with our list massacred and our horrible lead in to the season, we were the fifth ranked team for inside 50s in 2019. The forwardline is the issue. 

    We’ve added some outside run to the midfield and have plenty of weapons to rotate through the centre. We have arguably the best up and coming weapon in the league with Petracca. And yes, one player can make a sizeable difference.

    The backline isn’t the best in the league by any stretch but has enough quality if they can get game time together. They didn’t have their best day against Carlton but have looked okay in pre season and round 1.

    The forwardline however just isn’t anywhere near consistent enough. How that gets remedied quickly with the cattle we have I’m not sure, but our fortunes rest on it.

    There is a guy playing for Feo we should check out.

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    I don't think I'm a 'Goodwin basher', but geez, after the Hawks win last Thursday I love Clarkson in charge of our list.

    Reckon we'd have a flag inside 3 years. 

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    Our best is as good as anyone.

    Our consistency is as bad as anyone.

    Our ability to let the psychological part of the game is worse than anyone.

    Conclusion? We need to fix the bottom one, which will significantly help the middle one, which will see more of the first one.

    It's a "Yes" from me (ie capable of winning a flag), but has conditions.  Sadly, I don't trust our ability to meet the conditions. (I know that's a contradiction, but that's where we are at!).

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      On 23/06/2020 at 01:10, old dee said:

    There is a guy playing for Feo we should check out.

    I'd love to have Matty Taberner and get him wearing that special Trav Cloke glove so he stops dropping sitters. His movement and jump at the ball is as good as any.

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      On 23/06/2020 at 05:13, DeeSpencer said:

    I'd love to have Matty Taberner and get him wearing that special Trav Cloke glove so he stops dropping sitters. His movement and jump at the ball is as good as any.

    He's shown patches of really good footy, but can't stay on the park unfortunately. Already 27 years old and averages only 9 games a year due to repeated injuries. Would pass due to that.

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      On 23/06/2020 at 05:13, DeeSpencer said:

    I'd love to have Matty Taberner and get him wearing that special Trav Cloke glove so he stops dropping sitters. His movement and jump at the ball is as good as any.

    Guys it was a small joke about Hogan!

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    The group has the capability to be top 8, however we are a bottom 4 team right now and we will finish in the bottom 4 this year.

    Unfortunately we don't work hard enough defensively and just seem to be poor defensively in general. This means two things: first we can give up 5+ goals in a very short space of time, and second we rarely get easy goals our way (as easy goals usually result from forcing the ball back from the oppo).

    Was interesting once again seeing most games on the weekend won by the team that applied the most pressure to their oppo. It's a much simpler game than many believe.

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    No footy on the weekend, I watched the 2018 finals vs Geelong and hawthorn.  

    In those games, we:

    Move the ball with speed

    Almost never went sideways or backwards

    Pumped the ball in long to 20-25m out from goal, to tall targets with crumbers at their feet

    Tackled with ferocity, but not all players went to the pill.

    Fast forward to 2020:

    My observation is that we are trying to use the ball better.  Many kicks are going sideways into the centre corridor.  We are then trying to open up the forward line. 

    Maxy said that players were misinterpreting the instructions of “patience”.

    Im starting to think it’s not the forwards, its our slow ball movement and the players are not quite sure what with the person with the ball is going to do.

    I understand game plans have to evolve, but I feel like maybe we radically changed a game plan the players understood and believed in, instead of making some incremental changes.

     

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      On 23/06/2020 at 09:32, old dee said:

    Yes exactly. Isn't that what a joke is?

    I think I knew who you were referring to.

    I think we are better off without him.   I wouldn't go back on this one.

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      On 23/06/2020 at 01:07, old dee said:

    He is a kid who has now played one game above under 18's. He will take 2-3 years to develop. Then we should know if he is more than useful.

    But the point is that if last year’s Pick 3 isn’t in our next Premiership side, either Jason Taylor has stuffed up again, or most of us will be on the wrong side of the daisies. 

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    I’m surprised that most of the absolute pessimists in this thread that say the list is really unbalanced & we’re a mile off, are the same ones that keep sprouting, “ in Jason Taylor we trust “

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