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Rnd 14, 2020 TIO - Demons vs Saints

Team score, allowing for this season's 20% less game time, was 6% off the 2019 average and 17% lower than 2018's.

Still not sure how we won that.  Possibly just the fact we held our structure better than they did and finally managed to even up (or maybe just limited) their stoppage clearances.  Even Ed's last kick.  If he hangs on to it and eats up his 7 seconds we are a shoe in but he plays on, kicks down the line and it ends up with a Saint and, had we not been able to hem him in they might have had one last foray forward with about 14 seconds left.  All is forgiven though as he had a very good day otherwise.  May, Tracc daylight then Clarry, Ed and Salem the stand outs for mine.  Lovely game from the young rookie Rivers.

May's 9th top five finish this season.

Player Score Rank
Clayton Oliver  4.200 1
Steven May  4.150 2
Christian Salem  3.725 3
Christian Petracca  3.350 4
Ed Langdon  2.800 5
Jack Viney  2.700 6
Jake Lever  2.375 7
Joshua Wagner  2.375 8
Michael Hibberd  2.300 9
Adam Tomlinson  2.250 10
Max Gawn # 2.250 11
Angus Brayshaw  2.050 12
Trent Rivers  1.725 13
Charlie Spargo  1.250 14
Aaron Vandenberg  1.050 15
Mitchell Brown  1.050 16
Sam Weideman  1.000 17
Nathan Jones  0.775 18
Oscar McDonald  0.775 18
Jake Melksham  0.700 20
Kysaiah Pickett  0.600 21
Mitchell Hannan  0.475 22
Team Score 43.925  
Top 6 20.925  
Bottom 6 4.325  

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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14 minutes ago, Fanatique Demon said:

Thanks Rusty. 

No worries FD

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The Saints

Player Score Rank
Jack Steele  4.350 1
Bradley Hill  4.150 2
Zak Jones  3.250 3
Ben Long  2.875 4
Jack Sinclair  2.850 5
Sebastian Ross  2.675 6
Rowan Marshall # 2.625 7
Ben Paton  2.525 8
Callum Wilkie  2.450 9
Edward Phillips  2.375 10
Dougal Howard  2.225 11
Daniel Butler  2.075 12
Nicholas Coffield  1.975 13
Patrick Ryder # 1.825 14
Jarryn Geary  1.600 15
Hunter Clark  1.225 16
Tim Membrey  1.200 17
Josh Battle  1.200 18
Nick Hind  1.000 19
Jack Billings  0.950 20
Max King  0.700 21
Dean Kent  0.300 22
Team Score 46.400  
Top 6 20.150  
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1 hour ago, Rusty Nails said:

No worries FD

Many years ago I studied Econometrics at Monash. I only worked for a few years at the ABS (Bureau of Census and Statistics as it was then), but I've always been interested in the field.

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7 hours ago, Fanatique Demon said:

Many years ago I studied Econometrics at Monash. I only worked for a few years at the ABS (Bureau of Census and Statistics as it was then), but I've always been interested in the field.

Monash was (is?) a great environment from all reports FD.  Happy to send the excel file if you're interested in browsing / tinkering.  Pretty basic stuff.

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Weighted Averages up to and including Rnd 14, 2020

Player 2020 Weighted Score 2020 Rank 2019 Weighted Score % Change vs 2019 % Change vs 2019 w/ 20% time adjusted 2019 Rank Change in Rank vs 2019
Clayton Oliver  4.200 1 4.880 -13.93 7.58 1 0
Christian Petracca  3.785 2 2.843 33.13 66.42 9 7
Max Gawn # 3.100 3 3.437 -9.81 12.74 4 1
Jack Viney  3.002 4 3.258 -7.86 15.18 5 1
Christian Salem 2.925 5 3.658 -20.04 -0.05 3 -2
Steven May  2.831 6 2.618 8.14 35.17 14 8
Ed Langdon  2.783 7 - - - - -
Angus Brayshaw  2.596 8 3.131 -17.09 3.64 6 -2
Michael Hibberd  2.338 9 2.339 -0.04 24.95 19 10
Jake Lever  2.277 10 2.519 -9.61 12.99 16 6
James Harmes  2.208 11 4.039 -45.33 -31.67 2 -9
Tom Sparrow 2.150 12 1.275 68.63 110.78 37 25
Adam Tomlinson # 1.933 13 - - - - -
Braydon Preuss # 1.875 14 1.643 14.12 42.65 33 19
Harley Bennell 1.850 15 - - - - -
Nathan Jones 1.807 16 2.907 -37.84 -22.30 7 -9
Alex N-Bullen  1.783 17 2.120 -15.90 5.13 22 5
Oscar McDonald 1.733 18 1.956 -11.40 10.75 26 8
Tom McDonald # 1.675 19 2.297 -27.08 -8.85 20 1
Jay Lockhart  1.650 20 1.819 -9.29 13.39 30 10
Bayley Fritsch  1.640 21 2.809 -41.62 -27.02 10 -11
Trent Rivers 1.605 22 - - - - -
Sam Weideman 1.600 23 1.895 -15.57 5.54 27 4
Mitchell Hannan 1.506 24 1.433 5.09 31.37 36 12
Luke Jackson # 1.463 25 - - - - -
Aaron Vandenburg 1.394 26 - - - - -
Charlie Spargo 1.360 27 1.513 -10.11 12.36 35 8
Neville Jetta  1.355 28 2.264 -40.15 -25.19 18 -10
Jake Melksham  1.319 29 2.181 -39.52 -24.40 21 -8
Joel Smith 1.292 30 - - - - -
Toby Bedford * 1.250 31 - - - - -
Kysaiah Pickett  1.220 32 - - - - -
Mitchell Brown 0.913 33 - - - - -
Jayden Hunt 0.908 34 2.092 -56.60 -45.75 23 -11
Average Team Score - Top 22 51.746   59.623 -13.21 8.49    

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

* One match only, not an average

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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8 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Monash was (is?) a great environment from all reports FD.  Happy to send the excel file if you're interested in browsing / tinkering.  Pretty basic stuff.

Thanks Rusty.

 

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Rnd 14, 2020 Metricon - Dogs vs Cats

So after that pretty solid turnaround against quality opposition coming from a long way back at quarter time and their recent great form, i just thought i'd take a look how the Cats went this round.

They bat deep at the top with nearly seven players hitting a score of 3+ and their bottom six score is off the charts at 9.775  The only time our bottom six have gone near that was against the lowly Hawks (9.300) and the Roos (8.500).

That team score is big also.  We've bettered that on two occasions, again against the Hawks (56.475) and the Roos (56.750) with our next best (statistical) performance against the Pies (50.800).  Our round three performance against the Cats was our lowest for the year at 37.050  Maybe that's a good thing though given we only lost by three points?

Three players alone had a massive 28 score involvements between them.... Danger with 10 and Stanley / Hawkins with 8 a piece.

Player Score Rank
Patrick Dangerfield  4.325 1
Thomas Stewart  4.050 2
Cameron Guthrie  3.550 3
Tom Hawkins # 3.225 4
Jed Bews  3.050 5
Luke Dahlhaus  3.050 5
Rhys Stanley # 3.050 7
Tom Atkins  2.950 8
Brandan Parfitt  2.700 9
Mark O'Connor  2.650 10
Lachlan Henderson  2.625 11
Gary Rohan  2.625 12
Mark Blicavs # 2.575 13
Mitchell Duncan  2.200 14
Jack Henry  2.100 15
Jack Steven  1.950 16
Zach Tuohy  1.800 17
Gryan Miers  1.775 18
Jake Kolodjashnij  1.675 19
Sam Menegola  1.525 20
Bradley Close  1.500 21
Harry Taylor  1.500 21
Team Score 56.450  
Top 6 21.250  
Bottom 6 9.775  

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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One thing that jumped out at me this week was how our 6 forwards (Weid, Pickett, Spargo, Brown, Hannan, Melksham) combined for only 43 disposals of our 287, and 3 goals. They were our 6 lowest disposal winners. They are also the bottom 4 and 6 of the bottom 9 in your scoring. 

But then we only had 30 inside 50s (vs 46!). From the heat maps it looked like a of the game was played very deep for us.

 

I know disposals aren't a great measure, or comparable across positions, by it has a big effect here. We won with 12 scoring shots vs geelongs 22: that's a lot more points available for score involvements for example. 3 of Geelongs 6 named forwards are in their top 7 with scores above 3. 

I'm not sure if this is saying "our forwards did enough with what they had" or "our forward line is still a massive problem. It's probably a bit of both.

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I think Goody is coaching us to play a different style - a bit more keepings off, switch of play and less manic pressure.

Maybe this plan B or maybe it's just about conserving our players energy - especially when there are short breaks.  When we now have a bunch of good users in the back half (May, Hibberd, Salem and Rivers), it makes sense for them to chip it around until we get an opening. 

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3 hours ago, deanox said:

One thing that jumped out at me this week was how our 6 forwards (Weid, Pickett, Spargo, Brown, Hannan, Melksham) combined for only 43 disposals of our 287, and 3 goals. They were our 6 lowest disposal winners. They are also the bottom 4 and 6 of the bottom 9 in your scoring. 

But then we only had 30 inside 50s (vs 46!). From the heat maps it looked like a of the game was played very deep for us.

 

I know disposals aren't a great measure, or comparable across positions, by it has a big effect here. We won with 12 scoring shots vs geelongs 22: that's a lot more points available for score involvements for example. 3 of Geelongs 6 named forwards are in their top 7 with scores above 3. 

I'm not sure if this is saying "our forwards did enough with what they had" or "our forward line is still a massive problem. It's probably a bit of both.

Trust me Deanox it's very little of the first and a whole lot of the latter!!!

Somehow 2018 is a distant past fir Melky Hannan and Spargs on a consistent basis.

Even Kossie has lost some of his magic.

Weid is still developing and needs a breakout game ( like Yom Hawkins GF 2011 game) fir 4/5 goals.

Yes our forward entries were low on Sat but maybe it's preferable to 50 and 40 going out on the opposition express to their scoring zone!

But we are kidding ourselves that 12 shots will get us wins consistently.

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5 hours ago, deanox said:

One thing that jumped out at me this week was how our 6 forwards (Weid, Pickett, Spargo, Brown, Hannan, Melksham) combined for only 43 disposals of our 287, and 3 goals. They were our 6 lowest disposal winners. They are also the bottom 4 and 6 of the bottom 9 in your scoring. 

But then we only had 30 inside 50s (vs 46!). From the heat maps it looked like a of the game was played very deep for us.

 

I know disposals aren't a great measure, or comparable across positions, by it has a big effect here. We won with 12 scoring shots vs geelongs 22: that's a lot more points available for score involvements for example. 3 of Geelongs 6 named forwards are in their top 7 with scores above 3. 

I'm not sure if this is saying "our forwards did enough with what they had" or "our forward line is still a massive problem. It's probably a bit of both.

I think it was influenced by the high volume of turnovers from both teams in the midfield and our half back-line. The ball stayed in that area for too much of the game.

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7 hours ago, deanox said:

One thing that jumped out at me this week was how our 6 forwards (Weid, Pickett, Spargo, Brown, Hannan, Melksham) combined for only 43 disposals of our 287, and 3 goals. They were our 6 lowest disposal winners. They are also the bottom 4 and 6 of the bottom 9 in your scoring. 

But then we only had 30 inside 50s (vs 46!). From the heat maps it looked like a of the game was played very deep for us.

 

I know disposals aren't a great measure, or comparable across positions, by it has a big effect here. We won with 12 scoring shots vs geelongs 22: that's a lot more points available for score involvements for example. 3 of Geelongs 6 named forwards are in their top 7 with scores above 3. 

I'm not sure if this is saying "our forwards did enough with what they had" or "our forward line is still a massive problem. It's probably a bit of both.

If you looked at the baseline stats as an outsider without knowing the result, i reckon 9 out of 10 would've said Saints must have won that Ox.

So it's a real strange result that some might refer to as an outlier.  If you played it 10 times over the Saints probably win most of them.  We got smashed in the middle.  Steele had a VG game here.  Hill provided great run also.  They won the meters gain count by nearly 500 and as you've mentioned the inside 50 count big time and still lost.  Maxy a bit flat after the lay-off.

So what happened?  It's all been well covered in the other threads but a miserly defence (May / Lever), solid rebound off HB and wing (Ed was super), a match turner from Tracc, amazing last quarter from Clarry and solid work from Viney at stoppages.

Weid was ok but the rest of that forward line was super flakey and is still a real worry.  But yes they might have suffered from a lack of supply on the night.

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5 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

If you looked at the baseline stats as an outsider without knowing the result, i reckon 9 out of 10 would've said Saints must have won that Ox.

So it's a real strange result that some might refer to as an outlier.  If you played it 10 times over the Saints probably win most of them.  We got smashed in the middle.  Steele had a VG game here.  Hill provided great run also.  They won the meters gain count by nearly 500 and as you've mentioned the inside 50 count big time and still lost.  Maxy a bit flat after the lay-off.

So what happened?  It's all been well covered in the other threads but a miserly defence (May / Lever), solid rebound off HB and wing (Ed was super), a match turner from Tracc, amazing last quarter from Clarry and solid work from Viney at stoppages.

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I think this explains it well.

Midfield lost the contested battle.

Defence won it back (good defending or poor delivery inside 50 from the Saimts or both?).

We won the uncontested game (in that our full ground zone meant that the saints uncontested possessions were about maintaining possession, often chipping around the back, while our UPs were attacking or moving up field).

We were more efficient up forward, from limited opportunities. 

 

So putting those things together, the quality/effort of our defensive zoning combined with our ability to move the ball offensively, was more important than winning contested possessions or large numbers of up forward possessions. 

Imagine if we could combine our strong contested ability with our full ground defensive zone effort in the same match!

Some additional info here:

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/804456

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On 8/31/2020 at 1:39 PM, deanox said:

I think this explains it well.

Midfield lost the contested battle.

Defence won it back (good defending or poor delivery inside 50 from the Saimts or both?).

We won the uncontested game (in that our full ground zone meant that the saints uncontested possessions were about maintaining possession, often chipping around the back, while our UPs were attacking or moving up field).

We were more efficient up forward, from limited opportunities. 

 

So putting those things together, the quality/effort of our defensive zoning combined with our ability to move the ball offensively, was more important than winning contested possessions or large numbers of up forward possessions. 

Imagine if we could combine our strong contested ability with our full ground defensive zone effort in the same match!

Some additional info here:

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/804456

Reading this again Ox, are we seeing some similarities (albeit we are still a fair way off their level and obviously with many differences to each list) to the way the Tigers play?

It wouldn't surprise me to be reading this article about a scrappy Tiger win a la last night's vs the Dockers as this excerpt demonstrates...

..."Melbourne’s inability to compete with the Saints in the centre proved to be an issue for a lot of Saturday night’s game, but it was able to win the ball back around the ground and lift its intensity after half-time..."

Not sure if it's just a one off but maybe losing the mid field clearance count isn't such a bad thing if we are covering the outside and winning it back around the ground (at stoppages) and on the turnover.

The Tigers get most of their scores from turnovers rather clearance work.  Would be interesting to see some info on which area we had been scoring from in past season or two and even the first half of this one vs the second half of this one or even the last 5 to 6 rounds.


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Rnd 14, 2020 TIO - Swans vs Demons

Team score, allowing for this season's 20% less game time, was 3% off the 2019 average and 14% lower than 2018's.  Against one of the worst performing team's this season.  Abysmal.

Seen a few low individual scores over the years but rarely a negative.  Weid's performance easily one of the worst (statistically) in the Red & Blue by any listed player since 2018.  Jones, well i won't bother checking but that would be his worst since i've been recording these, and by a massive margin.

Yet another sad day in the history of this club.  Once the going gets a little tough and we are expected to win comfortably, it doesn't matter which playing group or coach is heading them, it finds a new way of dissapointing.

Player Score Rank
Clayton Oliver  4.350 1
Ed Langdon  3.375 2
Steven May  2.950 3
James Harmes  2.900 4
Adam Tomlinson  2.850 5
Alex N-Bullen  2.850 6
Jake Lever  2.600 7
Trent Rivers  2.525 8
Max Gawn # 2.500 9
Angus Brayshaw  2.500 10
Bayley Fritsch  2.250 11
Jake Melksham  2.000 12
Christian Salem  1.950 13
Joshua Wagner  1.875 14
Jack Viney  1.850 15
Charlie Spargo  1.450 16
Mitchell Brown  1.375 17
Oscar McDonald # 1.375 17
Christian Petracca  1.325 19
Joel Smith  0.600 20
Nathan Jones  0.450 21
Sam Weideman  -0.200 22
Team Score 45.700  
Top 6 19.275  
Bottom 6 4.925  

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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5 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

Did you mean Swans?

Thanks BN ... bad arvo period.

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27 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Thanks BN ... bad arvo period.

I know what you mean...the numbers are frightening. Very very troubling.  So many players had mares.

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Weighted Averages up to and including Rnd 15, 2020

Player 2020 Weighted Score 2020 Rank 2019 Weighted Score % Change vs 2019 % Change vs 2019 w/ 20% time adjusted 2019 Rank Change in Rank vs 2019
Clayton Oliver  4.211 1 4.880 -13.71 7.86 1 0
Christian Petracca  3.609 2 2.843 26.94 58.68 9 7
Max Gawn # 3.045 3 3.437 -11.41 10.74 4 1
Jack Viney  2.913 4 3.258 -10.59 11.76 5 1
Christian Salem 2.850 5 3.658 -22.09 -2.61 3 -2
Steven May  2.839 6 2.618 8.44 35.55 14 8
Ed Langdon  2.825 7 - - - - -
Angus Brayshaw  2.589 8 3.131 -17.31 3.36 6 -2
Michael Hibberd  2.338 9 2.339 -0.04 24.95 19 10
Jake Lever  2.300 10 2.519 -8.69 14.13 16 6
James Harmes  2.262 11 4.039 -44.00 -30.00 2 -9
Tom Sparrow 2.150 12 1.275 68.63 110.78 37 25
Alex N-Bullen  2.050 13 2.120 -3.30 20.87 22 9
Adam Tomlinson # 2.025 14 - - - - -
Braydon Preuss # 1.875 15 1.643 14.12 42.65 33 18
Harley Bennell 1.850 16 - - - - -
Trent Rivers 1.758 17 - - - - -
Bayley Fritsch  1.687 18 2.809 -39.94 -24.93 10 -8
Oscar McDonald # 1.682 19 1.956 -14.01 7.49 26 7
Tom McDonald # 1.675 20 2.297 -27.08 -8.85 20 0
Jay Lockhart  1.650 21 1.819 -9.29 13.39 30 9
Nathan Jones 1.638 22 2.907 -43.65 -29.57 7 -15
Mitchell Hannan 1.506 23 1.433 5.09 31.37 36 13
Luke Jackson # 1.463 24 - - - - -
Sam Weideman 1.420 25 1.895 -25.07 -6.33 27 2
Aaron Vandenburg 1.394 26 - - - - -
Charlie Spargo 1.375 27 1.513 -9.12 13.60 35 8
Jake Melksham  1.368 28 2.181 -37.28 -21.60 21 -7
Neville Jetta  1.355 29 2.264 -40.15 -25.19 18 -11
Toby Bedford * 1.250 30 - - - - -
Kysaiah Pickett  1.220 31 - - - - -
Joel Smith 1.119 32 - - - - -
Mitchell Brown 1.067 33 - - - - -
Jayden Hunt 0.908 34 2.092 -56.60 -45.75 23 -11
Average Team Score - Top 22 51.821   59.623 -13.09 8.64    

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

* One match only, not an average

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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Rnd 15, 2020 Cazaly's Stadium - Demons vs Dockers

Pretty much a repeat of the Rnd 3 match vs the Cats with SG effectively giving up the forward half of the ground and keeping a spare behind the ball early, almost as if he had conceded the match from the get go.  And that we did, with the Dockers constantly peppering the goals early and probably should have had a bigger lead at quarter time given the breeze and the amount of time in their forward half.

IMHO this is a strategy only worth using to ice a quarter, a game or to maybe prevent the opp from scoring further after a 3 to 4 goal run on.  This is NOT the way you want to play assuming you want to win games at this level, aside from those reasons listed.  I'm not sure why SG believes this is the way to set up at any stage in a match otherwise.  That he does so from the get go beggars belief.  But, we've seen it before so i guess history repeats when the coach doesn't learn from his past errors.

After the monsoon started, we then continued to look to handball more often than not and look for sharp passing up the line.  We also left the fat side open much of the time (our forward half robbed to have the spare down back enhancing this insane strat) inviting them to switch much of the time, which they did.  All this happened right from the first bounce, allowing Freo to rack up easy possessions out the back.  They had the ball, we didn't.  Brought many of their players in to touch and they got their tails / confidence up.  Terrible terrible coaching on our part at this level.  For an ordinary club at VFL level this wouldn't be acceptable for long, let alone AFL level.

After nearly 4 seasons i can only assume he is a VERY poor coach with little understanding of the "why/how & the who" that's required to set up the team to win on a regular basis.  A great example of this is to leave Lockhart out and bring Pruess in, leaving us short a small defender down back (weather forecast MFC....anyone home!?) and playing Walters in to some long missing form.  Awful awful coaching at all levels including match day selection.  The MFC has never heard of using a last minute emergency to cater for the conditions?

Our worst team score for the season and our 2nd worst bottom 6 score for the year behind Rnd 8 vs the Lions.

Rain obviously playing a part so not taking any stats too seriously here but our team score, allowing for this season's 20% less game time, was a massive 22% off the awful 2019 average and 30% lower than 2018's.  Against one of the worst performing team's this season.  Finals on the line and can't get over the line two weeks in a row against two bog ordinary teams.  Amateur hour from the MFC.... yet again.

Player Score Rank
Christian Petracca  3.600 1
Jack Viney  3.450 2
Max Gawn # 2.825 3
Trent Rivers  2.775 4
Clayton Oliver  2.450 5
Aaron Vandenberg  2.300 6
Bayley Fritsch  2.150 7
Oskar Baker  1.650 8
Ed Langdon  1.550 9
Jake Lever  1.525 10
Steven May  1.525 11
Sam Weideman  1.375 12
Jake Melksham  1.175 13
Michael Hibberd  1.125 14
Adam Tomlinson  1.000 15
Joel Smith  0.950 16
Kysaiah Pickett  0.950 16
Jayden Hunt  0.650 18
Christian Salem  0.650 19
Toby Bedford  0.600 20
Braydon Preuss  0.225 21
Alex N-Bullen  0.000 22
Team Score 34.500  
Top 6 17.400  
Bottom 6 3.075  

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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Weighted Averages up to and including Rnd 16, 2020

Player 2020 Weighted Score 2020 Rank 2019 Weighted Score % Change vs 2019 % Change vs 2019 w/ 20% time adjusted 2019 Rank Change in Rank vs 2019
Clayton Oliver  4.093 1 4.880 -16.13 4.84 1 0
Christian Petracca  3.608 2 2.843 26.91 58.64 9 7
Max Gawn # 3.027 3 3.437 -11.93 10.09 4 1
Jack Viney  2.952 4 3.258 -9.39 13.26 5 1
Steven May  2.752 5 2.618 5.12 31.40 14 9
Ed Langdon  2.740 6 - - - - -
Christian Salem 2.693 7 3.658 -26.38 -7.98 3 -4
Angus Brayshaw  2.589 8 3.131 -17.31 3.36 6 -2
James Harmes  2.262 9 4.039 -44.00 -30.00 2 -7
Jake Lever  2.248 10 2.519 -10.76 11.55 16 6
Michael Hibberd  2.244 11 2.339 -4.06 19.92 19 8
Tom Sparrow 2.150 12 1.275 68.63 110.78 37 25
Adam Tomlinson # 1.932 13 - - - - -
Trent Rivers 1.904 14 - - - - -
Harley Bennell 1.850 15 - - - - -
Bayley Fritsch  1.720 16 2.809 -38.77 -23.46 10 -6
Oscar McDonald # 1.682 17 1.956 -14.01 7.49 26 9
Tom McDonald # 1.675 18 2.297 -27.08 -8.85 20 2
Jay Lockhart  1.650 19 1.819 -9.29 13.39 30 11
Oskar Baker * 1.650 19 1.714 -3.73 20.33 29 10
Alex N-Bullen  1.640 21 2.120 -22.64 -3.30 22 1
Nathan Jones 1.638 22 2.907 -43.65 -29.57 7 -15
Mitchell Hannan 1.506 23 1.433 5.09 31.37 36 13
Jake Melksham  1.488 24 2.181 -31.77 -14.72 21 -3
Aaron Vandenburg 1.485 25 - - - - -
Luke Jackson # 1.463 26 - - - - -
Sam Weideman 1.416 27 1.895 -25.28 -6.60 27 0
Charlie Spargo 1.375 28 1.513 -9.12 13.60 35 7
Neville Jetta  1.355 29 2.264 -40.15 -25.19 18 -11
Braydon Preuss # 1.325 30 1.643 -19.35 0.81 33 3
Kysaiah Pickett  1.198 31 - - - - -
Joel Smith 1.085 32 - - - - -
Mitchell Brown 1.067 33 - - - - -
Toby Bedford 0.925 34 - - - - -
Jayden Hunt 0.844 35 2.092 -59.66 -49.57 23 -12
Average Team Score - Top 22 50.699   59.623 -14.97 6.29    

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

* One match only, not an average

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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    TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force on a scorching morning out at Gosch's Paddock for the final session before the whole squad reunites for the Preseason Training Camp. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS It’s going to be a scorcher today but I’m in the shade at Gosch’s Paddock ready to bring you some observations from the final session before the Preseason Training Camp next week.  Salem, Fritsch & Campbell are already on the track. Still no number on Campbell’s

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    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

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    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

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    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

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    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

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    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

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    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

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    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

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    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

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