Positive Trade Out (Non Regrettable)

[Deeko2 844]

10 minutes ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

Rockets to click.?

Or maybe Marriage,  and children,  and becoming a Dee,  entrenched in the team fabric.  being accepted.?  I am guessing, but in Cam's case,  I reckon it was likely something that added to his confidence, and completed him...  rather than some,  who need being lowered a peg or two,  before they wake up.? 

Or a combo of the above.    He never appeared to be a big head to my eyes.

I never thought he had a big head, I felt with Cam it was the opposite in feeling he lacked confidence.

The “rocket” comment was based on an old article I read. Link is below 

https://www.afl.com.au/news/120522/-they-said-they-weren-t-fussed-if-i-was-here-or-not-

In my opinion, that’s a rocket. 

Edited May 19, 2020 by Deeko2

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

We traded Phil Gilbert to Fremantle in 1994 for a 17 year old Jeff Farmer. Who is Phil Gilbert you ask? No idea. 

Wasn't Phil Gilbert amongst the recruits when we got Pike.?

[Moonshadow 17,677]

5 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

So the Hogan and Watts trades were good, not according to other threads, the team has gone nowhere since

Please explain

All good, chap. Training the house down. Goody has the cattle he wants. 

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

3 hours ago, dl4e said:

Sam Blease.

Blease gives me the sads. 

I picked him after a game at the 'G', when I went to watch Hurley and Watts.

I came away thinking, unsure,  of both Hurley and Watta, on this game...  but others that took my interest were both Blease with his dash,  and David Zaharakis, who had been previously overlooked iirc.

Blease straight line pace,  and Zaharakis good run with a step and change of direction.  I chose Blease ?...   This was before the flood became a nightmare,  and the side step became paramount.

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

26 minutes ago, Deeko2 said:

I never thought he had a big head, I felt with Cam it was the opposite in feeling he lacked confidence.

The “rocket” comment was based on an old article I read. Link is below 

https://www.afl.com.au/news/120522/-they-said-they-weren-t-fussed-if-i-was-here-or-not-

In my opinion, that’s a rocket. 

Yes.  I'm aware of the Todd Viney thing;  which helped, i'm sure...  but those things only last for a short time,  before wearing off... you know 'changing spots', and those things.

But in St Pedo's case,  he maintained his effort, and workload,  and really became a true Dee...  highly respected.  Which was hard-earned.  Just as it should be.

[Satyriconhome 10,880]

52 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

All good, chap. Training the house down. Goody has the cattle he wants. 

I was just unsure,  some of the normal miseries were actually praising something the Club did, thought I had slipped into a parallel universe, but then you repled, all is well

Hindsight revisionism again, sad that the 2 Messiahs both turned out to be Naughty Boys instead

[Little Goffy 14,662]

Travis Johnstone got us pick 14.  Can we really blame the trade for the choice?

[Pates 9,661]

So far Watts for pick 31 (taking Fritta with it) is looking a positive trade. 

[Deemania since 56 6,723]

20 hours ago, Bay Riffin said:

very much so. Pederson strarted slowly, his first match for us marred by the panic mark whilst ducking his head. then went onto become a handy forward and what I thought was a very handy running ruckman when Maxy went down.

As a spectator, you could actually see and feel Cam thinking about what to do - and when - onfield. He was a big bloke, not an all-day runner so he was selective in his contributions at critical moments, that were generally enormous.

His drive and focus became essential tools to a struggling forward line; his presentation to and for the ball were surprisingly adept. 'Respect', with an uppercase 'R'. If someone amid the alleged stars was going to save a game, it would often be Cam Pederson.

Edited May 19, 2020 by Deemania since 56

[spirit of norm smith 16,591]

11 hours ago, Pates said:

So far Watts for pick 31 (taking Fritta with it) is looking a positive trade. 

Yes so far we are ahead.
 

It was widely reported that we were so keen on Fritsch that we would pick him ahead of any under 18 prospects.  Pick 29 was our first pick and getting pick 31 was going to be a bonus. I was shocked when Charlie Spargo was called at pick 29 and then totally relieved when Fritsch got selected at pick 31.  I would have lost it if the Blues had nabbed Fritsch at pick 30. 

[poita 3,902]

1 minute ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Yes so far we are ahead.
 

It was widely reported that we were so keen on Fritsch that we would pick him ahead of any under 18 prospects.  Pick 29 was our first pick and getting pick 31 was going to be a bonus. I was shocked when Charlie Spargo was called at pick 29 and then totally relieved when Fritsch got selected at pick 31.  I would have lost it if the Blues had nabbed Fritsch at pick 30. 

Let's be realistic about our success on this one. We could have taken Fritsch at pick 29, kept Watts and still be better off than where we are now with Spargo and his phenomenal ability to generate clangers from uncontested possessions.

[dpositive 1,744]

Yeah, I had plenty of time for Pedersen.

A mate (North supporter) said he was under-utilised at North and we had got a good one.

He trained well, changed his style and seemed to really add to the squad.

The controversy of him ducking his head seemed to define him, although that incident was grossly misrepresented.

He played Casey and wherever told but could never seem to secure consistent selection in the ones. He always seemed to have a positive approach and was never critical. Seemed to have a great attitude.

Always seemed to play with intensity and I reckon he added to the team but the coach was not convinced

i regret he did not play more but he retired well and I certainly think he can hold his head high. He gets plenty of respect and admiration from me.

[spirit of norm smith 16,591]

44 minutes ago, poita said:

Let's be realistic about our success on this one. We could have taken Fritsch at pick 29, kept Watts and still be better off than where we are now with Spargo and his phenomenal ability to generate clangers from uncontested possessions.

Agreed.  

[Deemania since 56 6,723]

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Yes so far we are ahead.
 

It was widely reported that we were so keen on Fritsch that we would pick him ahead of any under 18 prospects.  Pick 29 was our first pick and getting pick 31 was going to be a bonus. I was shocked when Charlie Spargo was called at pick 29 and then totally relieved when Fritsch got selected at pick 31.  I would have lost it if the Blues had nabbed Fritsch at pick 30. 

There was no retrospectivity in it with regard to ability and/or potential, at all. Fritsch was clearly the goal with our first pick; Spargo was and is way behind that marque. Totally agree with your sentiments and shared a resounding relief (when his name was called for the Dees).

[spirit of norm smith 16,591]

Gysberts

Mclean

Longmuir

Gilbert

its a short list and makes me question whether you actually get ahead by trading players out.