On 05/09/2019 at 05:35, Rusty Nails said:

My mail is that Tracc had the opportunity and was being pressured (somewhat) to move at his last contract negotiations but chose not to as he was happy with things at the MFC (at that point).  If you recall, at that time he stated he wanted to be a one club player.

 

I recall he said he wanted to be a "Hall of Famer"

Yeah right

  On 05/09/2019 at 06:11, Lucifer's Hero said:

Spot on 'Rusty Nails'.

2020 is a huge year for player retention:

• Petracca out of contract
• Hunt and Harmes OOC and in their 'pre-free-agent' year
• Salem not OOC and also in his 'pre-free-agent' year
• Hannan, Fritsch, Petty and a few others OOC.

Wondering if anyone is confident one of the Adelaide clubs won't make a play for Petty next year?

For mine we need to fix the off-field stuff, improve player development and make inroads into finals (not just scrape in and go straight out) and no reason for players to go.  Fail on those and who knows who will fly the coop.  Lord knows there will be plenty of enticement from other clubs for their services.  Undoubtedly clubs would be circling as right now.  As as you have alluded to our friends down the road are circling.  Who knows if any of the above are enticed out next year but we need to give them every reason to stay. 

Hopefully, most of the above will have re-signed by mid 2020 for more than their 'pre-free-agent' timeframe.  For mine the number of young talent re-signing by around mid-year will be a litmus test of how the club is traveling. 

We can only hope LH.  Every year is critical especially with a struggling club like ourselves.  My gut feel tells me this off season might well be the most crucial since 1996.

Much will depend on the trade period and how well the FD culls / refreshes a very vanilla list.

A large part on chaos vs control footy.  How Goody handles it.  How we recruit for those changes or additional layers ...that's IF Goody is doing so.

Speed, skills, a decent small or two, a KF and some serious X factor needed.  Might need a few years to get what's needed though in order to go deep into finals.

Plenty of incentive for everyone to take it to another level and, as you say, get back to some finals success as a minimum pass mark.

Edited September 5, 20195 yr by Rusty Nails

The Collingwood pressure comes from his father, who remains a keen Magpies fans and would love Tracc in black and white. My journo mate told me there is no interest from Collingwood. Simply that Collingwood aren’t interested in acquiring. That was said in Round 11. If things have changed, then maybe they have.

  On 05/09/2019 at 07:47, Leoncelli_36 said:

The Collingwood pressure comes from his father, who remains a keen Magpies fans and would love Tracc in black and white. My journo mate told me there is no interest from Collingwood. Simply that Collingwood aren’t interested in acquiring. That was said in Round 11. If things have changed, then maybe they have.

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  On 05/09/2019 at 02:39, Lucifer's Hero said:

I am fine with what @Demons11 @Lord Nevand @Demon Forever  have posted.  The latter virtually confirming the others who reported having 'heard' that Petracca has been unhappy and had meetings with the club. 

Any player manager worth his/her salt would sass out other options for him.  And lets not be naive enough to think other clubs aren't knocking on player manager doors especially if they get a sniff of a player being unhappy  The player manager is obliged to pass that on.

 

Lets say that Geelong have been talking to Petracca's manager, it doesn't mean Petracca initiated it.  He would be a fool to not listen to what they have to say.  And Geelong desperately need a player like him as Selwood, Danger and Ablett are aging and they will lose Kelly.   They don't have a potentially elite midfielder in the wings.  Petracca would be a perfect fit. 

Collingwood is in the same boat with Pendlebury, Sidebottom and Wells getting on and Beams in all sorts of grief.  They do have better midfield coverage than Geelong so less in need of a Petracca type.

The club and Petracca seem to have sorted out their differences and as Demon Forever said 'nothing to see here'.  Petracca is under contract so isn't likely to go anywhere this year.  But next year is a different story.   That Petracca stays doesn't mean any of the 3 posters above were wrong.  Differences were sorted.

 

Why folks are complaining about posters saying what they have 'heard'.  There are posters who have contacts at mfc, other clubs and player managers but they can hardly name their source.  That things don't eventuate isn't proof that what they heard was wrong.  There are numerous, genuine reasons why things don't eventuate. 

I would rather read what posters 'hear' than not - it would be a very boring trade period if none of that came to DL.  If some posters don't want to read it fine, but please stop the whinging about it.

A little common sense.  Great post mate.

  On 05/09/2019 at 02:45, AshleyH30 said:

It's not so much what people say they've heard. It's the ones that spout it as absolute fact. But when you question them about it, they somehow backtrack or spout a generic line to cover their tracks. I could say several things that have been told to me, but I don't because a lot of it is hearsay atm. I don't know what is 100% true and what is fake. If I ever post what I've heard, I always add the moniker "may, possibly, could" never "will, curtain, absolute." Do you understand what I mean?

I don’t disagree with you on this and I would never post something unless it was someone who didn’t have direct contact with the player involved.

If his fair dinkum he will drop some weight & show up to day one of pre season in ripping nick & run in the top 10 of the time trial... Over to you Trac. Want to talk the talk then walk the walk, start running now mate

  On 04/09/2019 at 23:23, AshleyH30 said:

The stupid thing is, as far as I'm aware, Petracca and his management had a meeting with Goodwin and Co. They had a robust discussion about his playing future (ie. he wants to play more midfield time) where they come out with a mutual understanding, and then suddenly that's ballooned out to "He's not happy at the club and is looking for a trade." Suddenly, everyone asunder has heard something, but no mainstream media is discussing it?

My guess is that the meeting happened, some grievances were aired, and then as the story got passed on from person to person it changed. Deliberately or inadvertently, someone heard “Petracca was upset about certain things in his meeting” and turned it into “Petracca is going to request a trade”.

  On 05/09/2019 at 19:58, titan_uranus said:

My guess is that the meeting happened, some grievances were aired, and then as the story got passed on from person to person it changed. Deliberately or inadvertently, someone heard “Petracca was upset about certain things in his meeting” and turned it into “Petracca is going to request a trade”.

You're probably right but you speak like as if a player's management speaking with a club midseason about said player's role within the team is common. Which it probably is for players uncertain about their future.

Murmurs of Trac requesting a trade may well be BS but I think it's reasonable to assume that:

1. there was an element of unhappiness there, and;

2. that a trade was suggested, likely by Trac's crew, as a means to an end.

It being a reasonable outcome from the meeting doesn't mean unequivocally that it happened, or feed into rumours that he requested a trade. But let's not pretend like as if there wasn't some angst there.

  On 05/09/2019 at 19:58, titan_uranus said:

My guess is that the meeting happened, some grievances were aired, and then as the story got passed on from person to person it changed. Deliberately or inadvertently, someone heard “Petracca was upset about certain things in his meeting” and turned it into “Petracca is going to request a trade”.

That's what I was saying. The media has only ever reported it as a discussion about his playing future and that they nutted out what he's grievances were and have moved on. Yet people around here are saying they've heard that he's requested a trade without any substance. It seems like it's been inevitably changed by those who want to set a narrative of players abandoning the club, yet I don't see those types of discussions anywhere else.

Edited September 5, 20195 yr by AshleyH30