23 minutes ago, Robot Devil said:

Here’s how I’m seeing this having come about. 

Credit to The Oatmeal

 

‘A camel is a horse designed by a committee.’

Edited March 14, 20196 yr by Ethan Tremblay

On 3/13/2019 at 7:02 PM, Diamond_Jim said:

Hang onto your hats people !!!

"Club captain Easton Wood displayed the jumper for the first time at the Bulldogs' season launch on Tuesday night and the reaction on social media to the decision was swift and mostly negative.

However Iconoclastic's Ben Parsons, the founder of Ministry of Sport and a leading sports marketer, said such innovation was necessary otherwise sporting codes would lose relevance.

He also had a message for sports fans trying to make sense of the decision.

"You ain't seen nothing yet," Parsons said.

"I think they should be applauded for trying to do something different rather than rolling out the same mundane stuff."

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/innovate-or-die-say-sports-marketers-as-bulldogs-jumper-sparks-debate-20190313-p513yu.html

Who is this person? How can he say such innovation is necessary otherwise sporting codes will lose their relevance? Or that the teams keep rolling out the same mundane stuff? Doesn't he know the attendance record for the 2018 season was an all-time high and it broke 2017's previous record high? People are attending the games more than ever before. They are there to see good football and skilled young men, not stupid Hollywood inspired jumpers. Stop justifying these commercial decisions with gobblygook. I have to quote George Orwell again. This stuff coming out of some people's mouths is "newspeak".

A fashion abomination 

It looks horrible, but considering all the other shenanigans going on around the game not worth starting a picket line over if you were a Dogs fan.

Also hard to take the moral highground while following a club that props up its profit by flogging two games interstate every year. I'm sure the stakes are much lower with their novelty jumper but I'd wear anything it meant playing one of the NT games at home.

7 hours ago, DV8 said:

Gill and his cronies are risking our very game, by trying to undo/eradicate some the things we all love about our old game, for some really questionable ideals.   And they are not explaining their motives, to us, all of us... the No 1 stakeholders of this game of Aussie Rules.

 

They just do. and make a mess every time.

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Comic-book movies makes billions of dollars, the target audience for Marvel movies are children. The AFL are attempting to capitalise on this by making AFL players appear as superheroes to children. 

Edited March 14, 20196 yr by Ethan Tremblay

12 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Comic-book movies makes billions of dollars, the target audience for Marvel movies are children. The AFL are attempting to capitalise on this by making AFL players appear as superheroes to children. 

When I was a kid AFL players appeared to be superheroes by their acts and deeds not because of some stupid comic.

1 hour ago, ManDee said:

When I was a kid AFL players appeared to be superheroes by their acts and deeds not because of some stupid comic.

While that's true for me, too, one of the major differences between now and when I was a kid is that some AFL players have shown by their acts and deeds that they are anything but superheroes. Whether it's because pervasive media means we see it more or whether there are more modern day players than old-timers who are jerks, I don't know. But my best guess is that professionalism, which has introduced more money and more spare time, might have contributed to the negative.

Having said that, I still think compared with many other sports, the AFL ratio of superheroes to anti-heroes (and worse) still stacks up well. 

11 hours ago, Supermercado said:

It looks horrible, but considering all the other shenanigans going on around the game not worth starting a picket line over if you were a Dogs fan.

Also hard to take the moral highground while following a club that props up its profit by flogging two games interstate every year. I'm sure the stakes are much lower with their novelty jumper but I'd wear anything it meant playing one of the NT games at home.

I find it quite easy to take the moral high ground on this one.

 

Whilst, for a number of reasons, i hate that we sell games to the NT for money, I can appreciate the community work the club gets involved with. Yes, money is the primary source of motivation for us going up there, but at least there is some sort of substance to it. 

This 'thor' jumper is a cheap and tacky ploy to make a quick buck, while at the same time keeping the AFLs new baby (marvel) happy. Talk about selling your soul to the devil... And to say they're "doing it for the kids". Get stuffed thats the reason they're doing it.

Ah footscray... hang your head in shame you pack of sellouts.

2 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

While that's true for me, too, one of the major differences between now and when I was a kid is that some AFL players have shown by their acts and deeds that they are anything but superheroes. Whether it's because pervasive media means we see it more or whether there are more modern day players than old-timers who are jerks, I don't know. But my best guess is that professionalism, which has introduced more money and more spare time, might have contributed to the negative.

Having said that, I still think compared with many other sports, the AFL ratio of superheroes to anti-heroes (and worse) still stacks up well. 

LDVC, putting on a superhero jumper does not change the players behavior, it trivialises their unique skills and our unique game.

Despite thinking the Bulldogs have sold their soul, I would still support our Demons if they wore pink , puce, magenta or mauve as long as it did not clash with the umpires.

1 hour ago, ManDee said:

LDVC, putting on a superhero jumper does not change the players behavior, it trivialises their unique skills and our unique game.

I completely agree with you. If you inferred something else from my post, I need to improve my writing skills.

20 hours ago, Robot Devil said:

Here’s how I’m seeing this having come about. 

Credit to The Oatmeal

 

Robot

Presumably the only reason that the AFL logo is not on that brilliant sheet is due to copyright laws.

Clearly drawn up specifically for the current AFLHQ regime.

 

I get the negative comments like....this is a tipping point,this will be the end,old timers would be upset etc etc.

But look at the facts.All th ee negative people will still support the game,still attend & do exactly as the AFL want.I mean the old timers even from as little as 10 years ago would be devestated at how soft the game has become & how americanised it has become.It gets weaker by the day,the rules change constantly yet everyone falls for it & keeps shelling out money.There will be more themed rounds,more AFLX type garbage & even though now there are no good hits,hip & shoulders etc in 10 years time you wont even be able to tackle yet the game will go on for some absurd reason

Edited March 15, 20196 yr by Demon from Sydney

9 hours ago, Demon from Sydney said:

But look at the facts.All th ee negative people will still support the game,still attend & do exactly as the AFL want.I mean the old timers even from as little as 10 years ago would be devestated at how soft the game has become & how americanised it has become.It gets weaker by the day,the rules change constantly yet everyone falls for it & keeps shelling out money.There will be more themed rounds,more AFLX type garbage & even though now there are no good hits,hip & shoulders etc in 10 years time you wont even be able to tackle yet the game will go on for some absurd reason

(This on topic rant brought to you by Iron Man haemorrhoid cream as used by Max Gawn at the Marvel Football Club.)

I went to an ice hockey game is the US some years ago. If you've never been, you cannot imagine the amount of hoopla --- noise, rock music, flying blimps, flashing lights, mexican waves, etc. It's so full on the game is almost incidental to the "experience".

We got into the theme of things and were cheering, yelling, whooping at all the designated moments. Cheering at kiss cam,throwing frisbees, etc. It was fun.

After ages of this -- by the way, a hockey game was also going on -- we got tired of it and had had our fill. But there was another two thirds of the game to go! Jesus it got tedious. I remember thinking, ice hockey purists must f***ing hate this. It's literally at the point where the hockey takes place to fill in the gaps between the "entertainment", rather than the other way around. Heaven forbid there be even a single second without noise, coloured lights or some other distraction. (There would probably be a riot except the audience doesn't have the attention span and would abandon it after 20 seconds.)

What must someone from Norway or Sweden, an ice hockey enthusiast think? You can't simply enjoy the game of ice hockey. There is no time for reflection ... can't discuss the on-going game ... you literally can't hear yourself think.

Because we adopt everything American, no matter how good, bad, crass or stupid, we can look forward to more of this stuff infecting our game. We already have turkeys dressed in big fluffy costumes. "Ground announcers" to tell us the score that we can see for ourselves. Loud music to deafen us and blot out any personal reflections we may have about the game going on before us. Our collective attention span gets less and less.

Is the game not inherently entertaining? Huge crowds says it's entertaining by itself. And I understand that we can't stand still, otherwise one day we'll be reminiscing about the game of Aussie Rules we used to have, now mysteriously gone to its grave. Who wants to go back to a time without giant TV scoreboards, for instance?

But letting the marketers dictate is wrong and corrosive. They are attracted to us because of our drawing power, hence, exposure. We are of course attracted to their money. It's a marriage. Why are we now dancing to their tune? It's 180 backwards to be shilling their product for them.

Of course marketers think it's fantastic. Concreting over public parks is good idea, says man who sells concrete. Our biggest problem is that Gil is in spirit more of a marketer than a sports administrator.

So, if I understand this thread correctly, Brexit is about putting in place a hard border so the club that started the Irish experiment is the only one from hereon able to recruit players from Ireland.

On the other hand, the Western Bulldogs have aligned with the Norse god Thor and can recruit whoever they want from Norway.

I thought we had some bad guernseys - this takes crap to another level.

Mazer Rackham - brilliant summation of where successive administrators are taking our beautiful game.

Your last sentence summed it all up "Our biggest problem is that Gil is in spirit more of a marketer than a sports administrator."