Of all those KPIs we have broken through over the last month, I actually really like this one, which fittingly, we would have actually inflicted with our win several weeks ago against them -  "the Blues are now the least successful Victorian club this century. Since the start of the 2000 season, a year after the club had made the Grand Final and a year in which it was to make a preliminary final, Carlton has played 417 matches for just 157 wins (37.65%).

In the same period, Melbourne has played 415 games for 158 wins (38.07%). "

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-30/barrett-blues-should-follow-dees-recipe


It's not the point that the article is trying to make, but I hear Mark Neeld is available and I'd be only too happy for him to go over to Princess Park and bake some cakes for Carlton.

A fantastic achievement, well done Carlton.

12 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Of all those KPIs we have broken through over the last month, I actually really like this one, which fittingly, we would have actually inflicted with our win several weeks ago against them -  "the Blues are now the least successful Victorian club this century. Since the start of the 2000 season, a year after the club had made the Grand Final and a year in which it was to make a preliminary final, Carlton has played 417 matches for just 157 wins (37.65%).

In the same period, Melbourne has played 415 games for 158 wins (38.07%). "

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-30/barrett-blues-should-follow-dees-recipe


It's not the point that the article is trying to make, but I hear Mark Neeld is available and I'd be only too happy for him to go over to Princess Park and bake some cakes for Carlton.

The AFL is to football like Mendel was to genetics.  They publish incorrect facts which just happen to have the correct conclusions. This century didn't start until 1 January 2001, not 2000. Hence, the data used for 2000 shouldn't be included. As it happens, Carlton played 25 games in 2000 and won 17 of them; Melbourne also played 25 games, but only won 16. So, the correct figures are that Carlton has played 392 matches for 140 wins with a winning percentage of 35.7% whereas Melbourne has played 390 for 142 wins and a percentage of 36.4%.

You can thank me later.  

That's what you get when your whole recruiting strategy is based around poaching GWS rejects.

Their pathetic performances haven't stopped the media from trying to talk them up at every turn as well.  If we were in their position they would be taking great enjoyment out of smashing us.

7 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

That's what you get when your whole recruiting strategy is based around poaching GWS rejects.

Their pathetic performances haven't stopped the media from trying to talk them up at every turn as well.  If we were in their position they would be taking great enjoyment out of smashing us.

I think the solution is to reward them with more Friday night games.

2 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

That's what you get when your whole recruiting strategy is based around poaching GWS rejects.

Their pathetic performances haven't stopped the media from trying to talk them up at every turn as well.  If we were in their position they would be taking great enjoyment out of smashing us.

SOS recruiting management.

4 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

The AFL is to football like Mendel was to genetics.  They publish incorrect facts which just happen to have the correct conclusions. This century didn't start until 1 January 2001, not 2000.

Well done, LDC.  Very few seem to grasp this simple fact...

6 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

The AFL is to football like Mendel was to genetics.  They publish incorrect facts which just happen to have the correct conclusions. This century didn't start until 1 January 2001, not 2000. Hence, the data used for 2000 shouldn't be included. As it happens, Carlton played 25 games in 2000 and won 17 of them; Melbourne also played 25 games, but only won 16. So, the correct figures are that Carlton has played 392 matches for 140 wins with a winning percentage of 35.7% whereas Melbourne has played 390 for 142 wins and a percentage of 36.4%.

You can thank me later.  

quite so ldvc, and one's birthday is the same problem in reverse

one's 1st birthday is actually the 2nd occasion/celebration of one's birthday

8 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

The AFL is to football like Mendel was to genetics.  They publish incorrect facts which just happen to have the correct conclusions. This century didn't start until 1 January 2001, not 2000. Hence, the data used for 2000 shouldn't be included. As it happens, Carlton played 25 games in 2000 and won 17 of them; Melbourne also played 25 games, but only won 16. So, the correct figures are that Carlton has played 392 matches for 140 wins with a winning percentage of 35.7% whereas Melbourne has played 390 for 142 wins and a percentage of 36.4%.

You can thank me later.  

Ross Oakley says it started in Jan 1st 2000. 

12 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Ross Oakley says it started in Jan 1st 2000. 

QD,  you can believe a person who used to be the Chief Executive of the AFL or you can believe me. The choice is entirely up to you.

12 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

QD,  you can believe a person who used to be the Chief Executive of the AFL or you can believe me. The choice is entirely up to you.

Very good point. I believe in La Dee-vina Comedia. 

On 5/31/2018 at 5:46 PM, ProDee said:

This is still gold, from the last time they "won" it. 

Edited June 1, 20187 yr by A F

Statistically validates what I was arguing with a friend on the weekend: the (brave, young) Blues have escaped recent attention for being basically as shite as us, probably due to us.

From 2002 after finishing 6th the previous year and 2nd and 3rd in the years immediately prior:

2002: 16th

2003: 15th

2004: 11th

2005: 16th

2006: 16th

2007: 15th

2008: 11th

2009: 7th (beaten in the Elimination Finals)

2010: 8th (on percentage - beaten in the EF)

2011: 5th

2012: 10th

2013: (effectively 9th)

2014: 13th

2015: 18th

2016: 14th

2017: 16th

That is just downright [censored] horrible with the same evident failed rebuilds as us; except they're no closer to getting better in the foreseeable future and have had basically the same access to talented juniors  -  indeed, they'll have to rebuild a rebuild of a rebuild of rebuild, if they can admit that is what is needed. Roll around in the corpse on Carlton ladies and gentlemen.

Note: If we went for it around 2011-2013 wih our list, instead of imploding, we probably would have made finals similar to the Blues in this period as well, even if it was a false dawn.

Edited June 1, 20187 yr by Skuit