I still remember Kreuzer streaming down the middle of the MCG last year and dobbing one from about 48 metres. He looked like the best ruckman in the history of th AFL. OUCH !!! 

1 hour ago, mo64 said:

Is that fact or just media speculation/rumours? It's inconsistent with their stance on Gibbs.

Who did they have planned to play in the ruck without Kreuzer? Daisy Thomas?

Let me put it this way, Kreuzer was being hawked around with no takers. It was either Carlton, or his manager, with their consent.

At the time he was struggling to play because of a foot injury.

He is a crock.

I would rather Casboult. He would have fit right in last week.

6 hours ago, Dappa Dan said:

If you're of the opinion we need a ruck/forward type... then yes... He's ideal. If you're not of that opnion, it's a no.

I think when all's said and done he would be a massive amount of salary cap space, so meh. I think we'll more than likely look at a Peter Wright type with one of our earlier picks in coming drafts. I don't see Watts as a full time KP forward in the way Weed and Hogan are... so a Wright type would be ideal.

Personal opinion. Kreuzer would be good for that. Doubt he'd want to be second fiddle to Gawn int he ruck though.

Interesting. I'd actually just go Peter Wright. He comes out of contract at the end of 2019. Our window will be open well and truly by then. I reckon we go for him, but at the moment I'm happy enough to allow Weideman to develop alongside Hogan and Watts.

5 hours ago, mo64 said:

Just have a look at what happened to Port Adelaide when they got Paddy Ryder. Lobbe was a pure ruckman, and Ryder played his best footy at Essendon in the ruck. Lobbe's form dropped dramtically, and Ryder had little impact as a forward/ruckman.

Kreuzer is a skillful footballer, but he's a ruckman/forward not a forward/ruckman.

If we got a forward ruckman, it would be at the expense of Weidemann. If they both played, Hogan would have to play up the ground more, and I think that it would be to the detriment of the team.

I disagree with this in time. Weideman and Hogan will rotate from deep and CHF. We can also play a tall KPF beside them.

At the moment, I'm happy to go small, quick and agile at the feet of Hogan, Weideman and Watts.

3 hours ago, praha said:

I'd much rather throw money at Dusty.

As much as he is fast becoming the best player in the game, the money we'd have to fork out would be too much and I'd fear it'd upset our list balance from a financial perspective.

I think we have to hold out for a gun FA until they're either willing to take a pay cut to come over, or come across without us having to break the bank.

4 hours ago, A F said:

Interesting. I'd actually just go Peter Wright. He comes out of contract at the end of 2019. Our window will be open well and truly by then. I reckon we go for him, but at the moment I'm happy enough to allow Weideman to develop alongside Hogan and Watts.

That kid is unreal. Would cost an arm and a leg to get. Remember when we tried to get Adelaide's Lynch?

Another one is Hipwood. Fantastic footballer already. All would take huge amounts to get a hold of.

If he was 24 with a ceiling then I would say yes.  At 28 I think he has reached his potential and will not be the piece of the puzzle that takes us forward.

 

11 hours ago, Redleg said:

Let me put it this way, Kreuzer was being hawked around with no takers. It was either Carlton, or his manager, with their consent.

At the time he was struggling to play because of a foot injury.

That is how I recall it.

They wanted a club to offer him a mega contract as he was an FA and Carlton were angling for a first round AFL compensation pick ie pick 2.  When they learnt there wasn't much interest at a level where they would get pick 2 they took him off the table.  (Anyway, the AFL wanted the Lions to have pick 2). 

Carlton are probably damned please they kept him as he is playing well.  There may be more interest in Kreuzer as an FA this time round. 

I'm in the 'He is not for us' camp.

Edited April 13, 20178 yr by Lucifer's Hero

3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

That is how I recall it.

They wanted a club to offer him a mega contract as he was an FA and Carlton were angling for a first round AFL compensation pick ie pick 2.  When they learnt there wasn't much interest at a level where they would get pick 2 they took him off the table.  (Anyway, the AFL wanted the Lions to have pick 2). 

Carlton are probably damned please they kept him as he is playing well.  There may be more interest in Kreuzer as an FA this time round. 

I'm in the 'He is not for us' camp.

He still has the foot problem, just like Jaeger and Dion have the knee problems. Kreuzer is obviously playing through the difficulties.

8 hours ago, Dappa Dan said:

That kid is unreal. Would cost an arm and a leg to get. Remember when we tried to get Adelaide's Lynch?

Another one is Hipwood. Fantastic footballer already. All would take huge amounts to get a hold of.

That was when we were a 7 win team. We should be a team pushing for a flag by 2019. Different situation I think.

No room at the inn.

19 hours ago, steve_f said:

He is a crock.

Being from Carl, more likely a crook 

But I am 100 percent certain that he could arrange a glowing medical report from Princes Park. 

Don't need Kruzer.So why bother?

Peter wright is the one who could be a great partner to hogan up forward and a quality Chop out for max 

but I'd say he's worth a bit in a trade 

On 13/04/2017 at 8:41 AM, Ethan Tremblay said:

Gawn might try to eat his pizza face. 

I don't mind his olive complexion.