1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Disappointing Oliver's not in. We could probably use him instead of Frost especially at Etihad where a fast track means you can be caught out playing too many talls. I know Frost isnt slow but still 

DEFINATELY!!! POOR SELECTION IMV

2 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Yeah well why rest him if the intention was that he wasn't going the play te following week. Shocking and poor management IMV!

You know he's played four games right? And the team didn't exactly have any passengers on Sunday night. If he comes into the side, who goes out? 

 

Angus' turn to put in a solid month at Casey.

Think Salem will be a late out for Oliver.

Looks like the coaching and fitness group do not see any lingering effects of the short turn around compared to the Saints. Hope they are right. Would hate to see us run out of legs in the last quarter.

I would have liked to see Oliver come straight back in after his rest but can see the thinking behind minimal changes given the form and results the team has had over the last couple of rounds. it might be good for the young fella to understand that he is not a walk up start at this stage. This also reflects the situation we have at this point with a lot of good, inform players trying to get into a winning team.

Dees by 40pts

1 minute ago, Generation dee said:

You know he's played four games right? And the team didn't exactly have any passengers on Sunday night. If he comes into the side, who goes out? 

 

Two things what was he told ehen being rested?? Why the rest?? Nup can't have it. Stuffed up last week when rested. 

Who would he relace?? Frost or Harmes !!

11 minutes ago, picket fence said:

 

2 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Angus' turn to put in a solid month at Casey.

Think Salem will be a late out for Oliver.

I would be surprised

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

Two things what was he told ehen being rested?? Why the rest?? Nup can't have it. Stuffed up last week when rested. 

Who would he relace?? Frost or Harmes !!

Neither of those play in his position. 

For the sake of team balance, and fitness, let him play in the VFL.

He's an 18 year old kid ffs. 

Edited April 28, 20169 yr by Seraph

5 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Yeah well why rest him if the intention was that he wasn't going the play te following week. Shocking and poor management IMV! If as some posters have speculated he needs to build a tank then he wouldn't have gained anything from not playing last week ! An in retrospect he is now behind the 8 ball> Don't agree at all with this!

must be out of favour, picket. probably get traded out at this rate

3 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Yeah well why rest him if the intention was that he wasn't going the play te following week. Shocking and poor management IMV!

Says more about your understanding of player management  than player management itself. It is obviously not about form. The club has a team of fitness professionals who closely monitor loads and performance both on match day and at training and would know a touch more about managing a first year player than you, but hey, that's just my view. 

Why did they just rest him if they weren't going to play Oliver the following week?

Shouldn't  he have played at Casey?

Unless he had some soreness or a tiny niggle.

I'm surprised at how short the saints will be. They have hardly any talls in that side, especially their backline. Plus no one to go up 2nd ruck. Strange team for them.

 

1 minute ago, nutbean said:

Says more about your understanding of player management  than player management itself. It is obviously not about form. The club has a team of fitness professionals who closely monitor loads and performance both on match day and at training and would know a touch more about managing a first year player than you, but hey, that's just my view. 

So Nutbean what would you have done starting from his Rested situation?? Eh?

3 minutes ago, picket fence said:

DEFINATELY!!! POOR SELECTION IMV

I wish you would give it a rest, carry on like a petulant child every Thursday night! 

Fwiw I am disappointed Oliver misses, but I now have faith that we know what we're doing. 

If they want to rest/manage oliver not much point only giving him 1 week out. Good player management

1 minute ago, DeeZee said:

Why did they just rest him if they weren't going to play Oliver the following week?

Shouldn't  he have played at Casey?

Unless he had some soreness or a tiny niggle.

Maybe he needed an actual proper rest?

He's an 18 year old kid in his first year of senior footy who played 7 games of senior footy in a row, including a limited pre-season. 

Beating the saints will be another voodoo broken

Disagree Picket. Petracca for Brayshaw is like for like.

Oliver for Frost is not, Frost has been doing well as a quick defensive forward who can also provide a target/spoil... 

and Harmes has a more versatile game than Oliver at present, and is playing his role(s) well...

 

No Weed named for Casey ? Reason

1 minute ago, Jesse Christ said:

I wish you would give it a rest, carry on like a petulant child every Thursday night! 

Fwiw I am disappointed Oliver misses, but I now have faith that we know what we're doing. 

Oh how illuminating !! You have faith eh?? Well Virginia there really truly is a Santa Claus!! What present will he give to the MFC I wonder??

I think the omission of Oliver shows that we have been building up a strong stock of mids and as such there is now much competition for them.

4 minutes ago, picket fence said:

So Nutbean what would you have done starting from his Rested situation?? Eh?

As I said in my original post, leave it to the professionals. We can both agree that he wasn't left out for poor form, therefore I leave managing of 1st year players to the fitness staff who may actually have a bit more insight ( coupled with a degree of two) into these types of decisions. 

3 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Oh how illuminating !! You have faith eh?? Well Virginia there really truly is a Santa Claus!! What present will he give to the MFC I wonder??

A dummy for you probably seeing as you are always spitting yours out,  child 

10 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Why did they just rest him if they weren't going to play Oliver the following week?

Shouldn't  he have played at Casey?

Unless he had some soreness or a tiny niggle.

I think it's more that they are now very aware of the work loads on first year players.  Brayshaw was spent by midway through last season.

Oliver is a 10 year prospect, he'll play plenty of footy. No need to over do it early

24 minutes ago, picket fence said:

I really question the rationale and decision making regarding the managemnet of Clayton Oliver Rested last week and if not injured then he should have been a walk up start this week. His impressive form in all but his latest game ( two weeks ago) demanded his reselection. If he doesn't play I don't like it OR agree with it.

Terrible player management IMV!

agreed, he should have come in before Tracca