I think we'll see six go from the main list. Bail, McKenzie, Jamar, M Jones, Terlich and Howe to be traded. Grimes will probably get a one or two year deal on very little cash. At least, that's how I'd play it.

Where does Garland fit in your scheme?

Out of contract and has put off talks till year's end.

Also a restricted free agent.

Where does Garland fit in your scheme?

Out of contract and has put off talks till year's end.

Also a restricted free agent.

Really?

Are you thinking Howe?

Call me old fashioned, but I dislike the way folks speak so harshly about their players. We are all blessed or not blessed with differences of intellect, skills, aptitude etc. It may be a supporters site but we should not write with such disdain and contempt about people just because they are footballers and seen as expendable. Sure talk about trades but do we need to be so harsh in our reasons.....no skills, hopeless etc? Would you like to be described in this way?

Really?

Are you thinking Howe?

No Garland as well

Call me old fashioned, but I dislike the way folks speak so harshly about their players. We are all blessed or not blessed with differences of intellect, skills, aptitude etc. It may be a supporters site but we should not write with such disdain and contempt about people just because they are footballers and seen as expendable. Sure talk about trades but do we need to be so harsh in our reasons.....no skills, hopeless etc? Would you like to be described in this way?

It is far from restricted to Demonland Ernest

Does not worry me.

They sign up for the big League/ generous pay checks in the entertainment game.

It goes with the Territory.

Just the same to me as Movie stars complaining about losing their privacy.

They take all the Publicity and Money they goes with it until they don't want something in the pubic domain

Then woes is me.

If you don't like the heat don't go in the kitchen

PS Hi old fashioned

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No Garland as well

Can you provide a bit more info or a link please OD. I have been following him closely as I think he is a real asset in our back line so would like to read more. Cheers.

Can you provide a bit more info or a link please OD. I have been following him closely as I think he is a real asset in our back line so would like to read more. Cheers.

It is in the Contracts thread I believe LH going back till early this year

Rock solid that he is a RFA out of contract this year

Edited May 25, 201510 yr by old dee

It is in the Contracts thread I believe LH going back till early this year

Rock solid that he is a RFA out of contract this year

Phew! Yes, I was aware he is an OOC RFA this year.

I thought your post said he had put off talks to the end of the year and that worried me.

Call me old fashioned, but I dislike the way folks speak so harshly about their players. We are all blessed or not blessed with differences of intellect, skills, aptitude etc. It may be a supporters site but we should not write with such disdain and contempt about people just because they are footballers and seen as expendable. Sure talk about trades but do we need to be so harsh in our reasons.....no skills, hopeless etc? Would you like to be described in this way?

Well, have you heard the way they talk about us?

"... hopeless sense of composition ..."

"... phrasing is clunky and his posts have little flow ..."

"... don't even realise he was making a simile ..."

"... couldn't spell if he ate a dictionary ..."

Harsh, and quite hurtful if you're one of the targets.

I think we'll see six go from the main list. Bail, McKenzie, Jamar, M Jones, Terlich and Howe to be traded. Grimes will probably get a one or two year deal on very little cash. At least, that's how I'd play it.

Grimes is contracted until the end of next season.

Call me old fashioned, but I dislike the way folks speak so harshly about their players. We are all blessed or not blessed with differences of intellect, skills, aptitude etc. It may be a supporters site but we should not write with such disdain and contempt about people just because they are footballers and seen as expendable. Sure talk about trades but do we need to be so harsh in our reasons.....no skills, hopeless etc? Would you like to be described in this way?

No of course they wouldn't, they would complain about being attacked personally, you are like me and a bit old fashioned, it says more about modern society unfortunately

Call me old fashioned, but I dislike the way folks speak so harshly about their players. We are all blessed or not blessed with differences of intellect, skills, aptitude etc. It may be a supporters site but we should not write with such disdain and contempt about people just because they are footballers and seen as expendable. Sure talk about trades but do we need to be so harsh in our reasons.....no skills, hopeless etc? Would you like to be described in this way?

We are talking about elite sportsman playing an elite game. They put their hands up for the big dollars, criticism whether it be constructive or not comes with that.

I think you'll find the club is no longer handing out buckets of cash to underperforming players. Some will find this hard to take and look elsewhere.....good luck with that.

Phew! Yes, I was aware he is an OOC RFA this year.

I thought your post said he had put off talks to the end of the year and that worried me.

I did LH and I am very confident he has.

Sorry to mess you up.

Until otherwise advised i am very confident the above is correct.

I think you'll find the club is no longer handing out buckets of cash to underperforming players. Some will find this hard to take and look elsewhere.....good luck with that.

Just as well Dawes joined a couple of years ago.

I did LH and I am very confident he has.

Sorry to mess you up.

Until otherwise advised i am very confident the above is correct.

Thanks OD...I wait with baited breath and hope and pray that he stays. Cheers.

Where does Garland fit in your scheme?

Out of contract and has put off talks till year's end.

Also a restricted free agent.

He gets a three year deal, IMO.

He gets a three year deal, IMO.

but does he want one at the MFC?

but does he want one at the MFC?

Yeah, I reckon he will. Particularly, once we've won our 6-8 games.

Bail- Just not skillfull enough

Mckenzie- no skills

Jamar- Time to move on from him

M Jones- Need to play quality kids instead of him

Cross- I'd like another year from him

Terlich- Surely gone barrring contract issues

Can't see Trengove traded. Surely stay on a low wage. He's a fighter and will be back.

Jamar depends imo. if gawn doesn't show anything, then Spencer @ 1, with the Russian as backup for a season. time this season will tell the story. a ruckman has to hurt oppo', physically. just a part of the job.

MJ ?

Crossy, + 1Yr

Terlich ?

Trenners is a must keep, unless his foot fails, & he retires... trade is not the answer for this kid & past captain. respect is the only thing for treating this situation. rookie? & to be kept in footy @ the Demons-fc. if he cannot play we should allow him a pathway into other Footy career areas. Not to be shunted to the scrapheap!!!

We are talking about elite sportsman playing an elite game. They put their hands up for the big dollars, criticism whether it be constructive or not comes with that.

there's no substitute for good manners, al

take a leaf out of my book

Call me old fashioned, but I dislike the way folks speak so harshly about their players. We are all blessed or not blessed with differences of intellect, skills, aptitude etc. It may be a supporters site but we should not write with such disdain and contempt about people just because they are footballers and seen as expendable. Sure talk about trades but do we need to be so harsh in our reasons.....no skills, hopeless etc? Would you like to be described in this way?

no one is writing about people heming, we/they are writing about trades peoples skills, or about professional's skills. about how they ply their trade. call it word of mouth heming.

now having said that; have you ever told someone to stay away from someone else? or advised against a certain mechanic, or against a certain plumber???

if you have, then your treading towards hypocrisy.

Well, have you heard the way they talk about us?

"... hopeless sense of composition ..."

"... phrasing is clunky and his posts have little flow ..."

"... don't even realise he was making a simile ..."

"... couldn't spell if he ate a dictionary ..."

Harsh, and quite hurtful if you're one of the targets.

the ones I've spoken to, reckon most here don't know anything about footy, & some say 'idiots'. but there ya go... they say the same about the journo's, but no one tells them to pull they're heads in.

We are talking about elite sportsman playing an elite game. They put their hands up for the big dollars, criticism whether it be constructive or not comes with that.

They pay with their knees, their head injuries, their loss of privacy, their curfews and team rules and weekly workplace appraisals, and with the round-the-clock fact of being public targets for every loud-mouth seeking an audience by trashing others. Well and truly earn every cent.

But "supporters", you would think, would be on their side...

When you look at the guys out of contract, there will be 4-6 players most of us would agree will get the chop. The one of most interest to me is Jamar. Four weeks ago, I was lamenting our desperate ruck situation, with an ageing Russian and his protégés barely progressing. When Roos replaced Jamar with Spencer I thought he was having a lend, but full marks to Roos for not waiting until the end of the year to act on the ruck department. While beating the lifeless, fetid corpse of Ayce Cordy might not be a true test of Spencer's mettle, we are at least now making the necessary steps towards the ruck division of the future. Hearing that Gawn and King played well on the weekend is great too. More of that please.

The loser here is Jamar. I like him, he's battled manfully for years now and is the longest-serving player on the list. It'd be hard to be bothered turning up to Casey Fields to play out the rest of your days, but hopefully he gets a farewell game in Round 23 (provided we're not playing for a top 4 spot) and gets to steamroll T Scully on his way out. If we can get continued improvement out of Spencer, Gawn and King, then we should be able to avoid spending valuable assets via trade on a ruckman at season's end.