Good points.

There's the difference between most EFC supporters and Demonland posters. They are never furious, quite the contrary whilst we love to bag the club for every little mistake. (Yes I know OD, we have had lots of mistakes.)

Cough cough!

You do of course when considering Little /Efc action along the way to ponder what was their real motive.

I put all this faux indignation down to a smokescreen. From here in the cheap seats it always appeared to me that all the huff and puff was a ruse with the real goal being time. The longer it went on then possibly the lesser the real impact player bans would have to the current best 22. I really dont think the Hirds of this world give 2 shlts about anything beyond themselves.

What we are now seeing is when such plans and disregard for welfare of those given to their care come unravelled.

Cowley's result:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-11/ryan-crowley-banned-for-12-months-for-breaching-drug-code

must be rather sobering news for hangar dwellers !!

not sure why you're surprised, it's no different to anything I've posted here or elsewhere. I'm not an idiot, I understand the implications of some of the evidence that's come out, and nor am I so one eyed I would blindly support.

If you keep digging back beyond February you'll also find posts where I argue that we should ditch James Hird and go with Thompson. There's all sorts of nuanced viewpoints for you in my work.

Also, Bruce Francis is a [censored] idiot an a complete embarrassment. That tweet, wtf? He is completely bonkers.

Lance you are rational, sensible, balanced and able to articulate your view without rancour. One question, however, are you really an Essendon supporter?

If so, we would welcome you aboard the good ship, Melbourne at any time. Can I host you to a game? As long as you like a good single malt

I may be cynical but I see Hirds motivation, as it has always been, and he has Little in his corner as Little may be in the [censored] as well, as being about legally protecting himself. If the players are banned, if they were injected with banned or unknown substances, then all board members and people in positions of responsibility (the coach) may well face many years of civil, if not criminal, proceedings. For this reason Hird and the club as a whole have not acted in the interests of the players, they are acting to protect themselves, and to do so they need to get the players off the charges.

If they were acting in the players interests then they would be chasing Dank for the records as that is the only way to answer what they were given. The fact they have not done this speaks volumes!

Lance you are rational, sensible, balanced and able to articulate your view without rancour. One question, however, are you really an Essendon supporter?

If so, we would welcome you aboard the good ship, Melbourne at any time. Can I host you to a game? As long as you like a good single malt

You can host me Ernest and I love a good single Malt

You do of course when considering Little /Efc action along the way to ponder what was their real motive.

I put all this faux indignation down to a smokescreen. From here in the cheap seats it always appeared to me that all the huff and puff was a ruse with the real goal being time. The longer it went on then possibly the lesser the real impact player bans would have to the current best 22. I really dont think the Hirds of this world give 2 shlts about anything beyond themselves.

What we are now seeing is when such plans and disregard for welfare of those given to their care come unravelled.

agree its a smokescreen and an attempt to string things out remember that at all times, hird and little have been following the legal and tactical advice of their own lawyers. they can be very persuasive in getting clients away from what is the most responsible and best thing to do for all. quite rightly, the legal eagles are trying to win for their clients. also I suspect that these two guys have messianic qualities that translates into a belief that they cannot do any wrong. In other words, they are so sure that they are right they cannot entertain the idea that the opposite is true. they are so used to winning and place so much importance in winning that they are consumed by it, and ethical considerations take a back seat. a guy called lance was the classic example.

I may be cynical but I see Hirds motivation, as it has always been, and he has Little in his corner as Little may be in the [censored] as well, as being about legally protecting himself. If the players are banned, if they were injected with banned or unknown substances, then all board members and people in positions of responsibility (the coach) may well face many years of civil, if not criminal, proceedings. For this reason Hird and the club as a whole have not acted in the interests of the players, they are acting to protect themselves, and to do so they need to get the players off the charges.

If they were acting in the players interests then they would be chasing Dank for the records as that is the only way to answer what they were given. The fact they have not done this speaks volumes!

You can host me Ernest and I love a good single Malt

I'm there as well! I love a couple of good single malts.

I'm there as well! I love a couple of good single malts.

this could be big. a wise elder, a minister of the cloth and a long dead novelist.

this could be big. a wise elder, a minister of the cloth and a long dead novelist.

And they're all stuck on a desert island

And they're all stuck on a desert island

what records ??

And they're all stuck on a desert island

No Ted you cannot come.

No Ted you cannot come.

elitist !!

agree its a smokescreen and an attempt to string things out remember that at all times, hird and little have been following the legal and tactical advice of their own lawyers. they can be very persuasive in getting clients away from what is the most responsible and best thing to do for all. quite rightly, the legal eagles are trying to win for their clients. also I suspect that these two guys have messianic qualities that translates into a belief that they cannot do any wrong. In other words, they are so sure that they are right they cannot entertain the idea that the opposite is true. they are so used to winning and place so much importance in winning that they are consumed by it, and ethical considerations take a back seat. a guy called lance was the classic example.

Ernest..I m not sure it was the lawyers leading these clowns away from responsibility. I sense they ( beagles) were asked how can we string this out...and advised accordingly. Why would they argue...kaching kaching !!

elitist !!

Yep that's me just at the elite team I follow.

this could be big. a wise elder, a minister of the cloth and a long dead novelist.

You would have to take Beelzebub just for the interest the juxtaposition with the man of cloth would provide.

You would have to take Beelzebub just for the interest the juxtaposition with the man of cloth would provide.

I resemble that remark !!

I resemble that remark !!

Resemble?

Resemble?

Resemble?

Miss the joke Chris?

Yes like a post above I have always thought this would end up at WADA

From the moment i saw the first Press Conference in Feb '13

We signed up to the WADA Code.

So i have always been amused that Windy Pill always tried to hide from WADA...(divert attention)

WADA were always going to have their say

The merely announced it with an hour to go!!

This guy is clearly Essendon FC President material.

I think he is angling for coach,failing that Prime Minister.

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Lance you are rational, sensible, balanced and able to articulate your view without rancour. One question, however, are you really an Essendon supporter?

If so, we would welcome you aboard the good ship, Melbourne at any time. Can I host you to a game? As long as you like a good single malt

Hi Ernie.

I'm not really a Dees supporter.

Im willing however, to attend a game with you.

(and not that is at all the clincher, but what sort of single malt would you be referring to, and does it end at only one bottle?)

faulty

You can host me Ernest and I love a good single Malt

I even love a bad one. You havent tried the $3.50 blended stuff on the shelves near my place in the Philippines.

A krap single malt would taste like Royal Salute over here.

Miss the joke Chris?

Must admit I did. Straight over this head unfortunately.