Chip turned off after Round 2. Then he played as a forward which is not his job.

That is the reality.

An alternate reality perhaps.

Even at the dees you have to play well to get in the top 10 in th b&f, to say he turned off after round 2 is rewriting history, and just plan stupid thing to say.

Even at the dees you have to play well to get in the top 10 in th b&f, to say he turned off after round 2 is rewriting history, and just plan stupid thing to say.

Not sure that is correct, the tenth best player on the MFC list is pushing the bounds of ordinary at most other clubs

Even at the dees you have to play well to get in the top 10 in th b&f, to say he turned off after round 2 is rewriting history, and just plan stupid thing to say.

Nah, you just have to play relatively consistently. Every player gets votes so its biased towards those who play the most games.

Even at the dees you have to play well to get in the top 10 in th b&f, to say he turned off after round 2 is rewriting history, and just plan stupid thing to say.

Sorry. He actually "turned off" during the Round 2 game if you watch carefully you will see...

Sorry. He actually "turned off" during the Round 2 game if you watch carefully you will see...

lol

So just to be clear, he came into the season mentally prepared, ready to go, and that mindset lasted a grand total of two weeks?

lol

So just to be clear, he came into the season mentally prepared, ready to go, and that mindset lasted a grand total of two weeks?

once the head drops P Man respect for your club is severed...yes it can be salvaged but it is never the same. My gut feel is that Chip was out before round 1 but had to keep it quiet.

The interview with Matt Burgan was excriutiating, suprised the MFC let that get ou to the supporters

So no i don't think the mindset lasted even 2 weeks

once the head drops P Man respect for your club is severed...yes it can be salvaged but it is never the same. My gut feel is that Chip was out before round 1 but had to keep it quiet.

The interview with Matt Burgan was excriutiating, suprised the MFC let that get ou to the supporters

So no i don't think the mindset lasted even 2 weeks

Saying he was "switched off" before the season began is less absurd than saying he "switched off" during Round 2, but it's still incorrect. You are blatantly rewriting history and it makes you look petty.

In round 4 he had 24 possessions, 6 inside 50s and kicked 2 goals. In a role that was foreign to him. And you're saying he was "switched off" by that stage?

He tailed off at the end of the year like most of our players, partly because he is not a leader's backside, but that doesn't override his other contributions on the field throughout the year.

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Saying he was "switched off" before the season began is less absurd than saying he "switched off" during Round 2, but it's still incorrect. You are blatantly rewriting history and it makes you look petty.

In round 4 he had 24 possessions, 6 inside 50s and kicked 2 goals. In a role that was foreign to him. And you're saying he was "switched off" by that stage?

He tailed off at the end of the year like most of our players, partly because he is not a leader's backside, but that doesn't overwrite his other contributions on the field throughout the year.

Just calling it as i saw it Man..Chips body language was elsewhere all year, and that is a fact if you know how to read it.

I am not petty at all. He either signed on or didn't

Just calling it as i saw it Man..Chips body language was elsewhere all year, and that is a fact if you know how to read it.

I am not petty at all. He either signed on or didn't

Please don't paint yourself as a body language expert.

It makes you appear petty by claiming he was mentally checked out all year. Many of his performances lie in total contrast to that claim. It is flat out wrong, and I say that as someone who has criticised his laziness at times on the field.

Even when he returned to the defence, you could see his annoyance when he was beaten by his man. Chip's competitiveness and desire to win is one of the main reasons he's no longer at the club.

Please don't paint yourself as a body language expert.

It makes you appear petty by claiming he was mentally checked out all year. Many of his performances lie in total contrast to that claim. It is flat out wrong, and I say that as someone who has criticised his laziness at times on the field.

Even when he returned to the defence, you could see his annoyance when he was beaten by his man. Chip's competitiveness and desire to win is one of the main reasons he's no longer at the club.

Whaaaaattttt????

Whaaaaattttt????

Really not that difficult a concept.

Really not that difficult a concept.

You're kidding, right?

Please don't paint yourself as a body language expert.

It makes you appear petty by claiming he was mentally checked out all year. Many of his performances lie in total contrast to that claim. It is flat out wrong, and I say that as someone who has criticised his laziness at times on the field.

Even when he returned to the defence, you could see his annoyance when he was beaten by his man. Chip's competitiveness and desire to win is one of the main reasons he's no longer at the club.

nope. It's more a big fat long contract that Chip was able to command at the club of his choice.

If you want to believe differently that is your choice Man.

You're kidding, right?

Mate, go play your one up games with someone who can be bothered,

nope. It's more a big fat long contract that Chip was able to command at the club of his choice.

If you want to believe differently that is your choice Man.

Big fat long contract? He couldn't have gotten that money at the MFC? Please.

He left to win more games. Now. End of story.

Hell his first interview with them he was talking winning a flag in his first couple of seasons, Brian Lake style.

I'm far from Frawley's biggest fan but going out of your way to create a villain out of him is silly, in my opinion.

Mate, go play your one up games with someone who can be bothered,

It's fine - your dumb comments and dumb posts are okay with me.

Hang in there........mate.

Big fat long contract? He couldn't have gotten that money at the MFC? Please.

He left to win more games. Now. End of story.

Hell his first interview with them he was talking winning a flag in his first couple of seasons, Brian Lake style.

I'm far from Frawley's biggest fan but going out of your way to create a villain out of him is silly, in my opinion.

i don't consider Frawley a villain. He just used an available system.

But he checked out last summer.

That is my opinion.

That's wrong. Word is that Chip actually wanted to sign back on in the end but that MFC were told behind close doors that they would get pick 3 for him if he were to leave and so forced him out.

That's wrong. Word is that Chip actually wanted to sign back on in the end but that MFC were told behind close doors that they would get pick 3 for him if he were to leave and so forced him out.

Yes i was told that too, Chip's attitude throughout the year bought him unstuck..

He wanted his cake and.....

i don't consider Frawley a villain. He just used an available system.

But he checked out last summer.

That is my opinion.

Which you're entitled to. The evidence doesn't really support that opinion.

Which you're entitled to. The evidence doesn't really support that opinion.

depends where you look and how hard you watch carefully. It's there against WC in Round two.

Many of us spoke about it at the time on this site.

depends where you look and how hard you watch carefully. It's there against WC in Round two.

Many of us spoke about it at the time on this site.

Again, you can stop attributing it to you just looking harder or being more of a body language expert.

I remember the West Coast game. There were far worse performers out there than Frawley. But overlooking that, is the accusation that he checked out before the season started, or from round 2 onwards? It seems to flip flop.

Frawley has been prone to incidents of laziness on the field for the past 2 seasons. At least. That isn't something new. Saying he had checked out entirely from the beginning is a bit different.

To what would you attribute his inarguably strong performances against Carlton and Gold Coast merely two weeks later? Playing in a totally new position, it should be noted.

Fight fight fight..!!

To what would you attribute his inarguably strong performances against Carlton and Gold Coast merely two weeks later? Playing in a totally new position, it should be noted.

Freedom or a lifting of responsibility would be my first thoughts.