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Nice thinking, but is there really any incentive for us to get a deal done other than being top blokes? I know we want to eliminate the slight uncertainty of the PSD, but my only offers would be 23 for Frost and 24, or 83 for Frost. Unless of course they want to start talking Shiel at the eleventh hour.

That deal wont happen. GWS have committed 24 to Jack Steele.

Unless there are more trades involving GWS or us our most likely option is a deal similar to the Gold Coast outlined above. We move slightly backwards with our second rounder for the price of 2 picks.

The best incentive is Frost becomes a demon as of tomorrow and we can then get him training straight away. I presume we could get permission for him to train with us in the lead up to the drafts but the lack of certainty might cause problems.

From GWS' point of view I think there's more benefit for them to get us to use PSD pick 2 on Frost so they have the live pick in the PSD rather than take the swap of 83. If they take 83 then someone falls in to the PSD we can somehow delist a player at a late stage and snag that PSD player.

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Sheesh, GWS traded Giles for a 3rd round pick swap in the 50s/60s, just give us Frost already.

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When you see the other deals being done this week, I find it amazing that the club can't get this piddly little one done. Not getting at least one pick back for in the Clark/Lumumba and Garlett deals was a mistake.

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That is the real concern.

Surely we could put a high price on the 1st year of his deal, then just renegotiate teh latter years like Collingwood did with Luke Ball.

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Surely we could put a high price on the 1st year of his deal, then just renegotiate teh latter years like Collingwood did with Luke Ball.

Good point.

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When you see the other deals being done this week, I find it amazing that the club can't get this piddly little one done. Not getting at least one pick back for in the Clark/Lumumba and Garlett deals was a mistake.

Think we got pick 80-odd from the Garlett deal, GWS literally gave away Giles for nothing, so not sure why they're holding this up.

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As long as a trade for Membrey doesn't get done, I'm calm. Our hand might be forced if one does.

Think we got pick 80-odd from the Garlett deal, GWS literally gave away Giles for nothing, so not sure why they're holding this up.

Strategically makes a lot of sense if they are chasing someone in the PSD. They can force us to use pick 2 on Frost and get whoever they want at pick 3. We might be targetting the same player. (speculation)

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Think we got pick 80-odd from the Garlett deal, GWS literally gave away Giles for nothing, so not sure why they're holding this up.

Maybe it is as someone suggested, that if Membrey and Frost are in PSD, then GWS has first live pick, which could be useful.

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Maybe it is as someone suggested, that if Membrey and Frost are in PSD, then GWS has first live pick, which could be useful.

who would that pick be?

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As long as a trade for Membrey doesn't get done, I'm calm. Our hand might be forced if one does.

Strategically makes a lot of sense if they are chasing someone in the PSD. They can force us to use pick 2 on Frost and get whoever they want at pick 3. We might be targetting the same player. (speculation)

Yeah that makes sense, can't think of any player that it could be though.


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GWS are idiots.

They're going to lose him for nothing anyway, just swap some late picks or take Blease or something and move on.

They just dont need any late picks they have 4, 6, 7 and countless others they are unlikely to use.

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They just dont need any late picks they have 4, 6, 7 and countless others they are unlikely to use.

No but he was one of their key defenders this year which they are already light on.

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No but he was one of their key defenders this year which they are already light on.

A key defender who was dropped for the last 7 games.

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A key defender who was dropped for the last 7 games.

And only getting a game due to injuries to Mohr and Davis

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Not a big fan of souring our relationship with GWS by not getting this trade done.

But if they accepted a packet of Smiths for Giles, they can't expect more than Doritos for Frost.

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