My Collingwood mate says Dunn would be a fair swap, I told him to sodd off.

lol - why would we bother with a trade that leaves us pretty much square?

Your Collingwood mate doesn't understand 1) the point of trades and 2) that his club has a weak hand in this trade. I reckon you gave him the same response that the club would if that was posed to them.

For all of those people quoting his kicking efficiency:

Lamumba's 2014 efficiency was 78.5%, Jack Grimes was 78%, Dean Terlich was 76.4%.

Lamumba's efficiency on paper looks much better than what it really is. A kick over 40m, to a 50/50 contest or better is an effective kick. Every time Lamumba bombs it long to a 50/50 contest, it is an effective kick. He does that as much as Grimes/ Terlich kick it short and sideways.

I like the idea of picking up Lamumba, but I'll be livid if we trade our 2nd pick for him.

You should still get an extremely talented kid at pick 21. Look at Merrett, Crouch, Impey, Taylor and McStay last year. All taken on the 20s. All look 200 game players.

Bernie Vince is a midfielder and a super popular clubman. Pick 23 was slight overs but we had to do it for those reasons.

We have to find a way to use Clark to bring lamumba in. Whether it be a straight swap with collingwood, or trading him to Geelong for their 2nd round pick and forwarding that to Collingwood.

If pick 21 is being traded it should be for a midfielder that we will get at least 100 games out of.

For all of those people quoting his kicking efficiency:

Lamumba's 2014 efficiency was 78.5%, Jack Grimes was 78%, Dean Terlich was 76.4%.

Lamumba's efficiency on paper looks much better than what it really is. A kick over 40m, to a 50/50 contest or better is an effective kick. Every time Lamumba bombs it long to a 50/50 contest, it is an effective kick. He does that as much as Grimes/ Terlich kick it short and sideways.

I tell you what I would rather - Lumumba running 20 and kicking it 50 to a contest than Grimes or Terlich chipping it sideways and missing targets in dangerous positions.

I tell you what I would rather - Lumumba running 20 and kicking it 50 to a contest than Grimes or Terlich chipping it sideways and missing targets in dangerous positions.

Maybe Harry and Hoges can get a ball , go to the park. The former can practice kicking to the latter

Given the general quality of our first and second round draft picks over the past 10 years we are not paying overs for anyone that have proven they can actually play.

Edited September 30, 201410 yr by america de cali

I tell you what I would rather - Lumumba running 20 and kicking it 50 to a contest than Grimes or Terlich chipping it sideways and missing targets in dangerous positions.

Or Matt Jones kicking across the face of goal and putting it down the throat of an opponent.

I did not want him, I think he is well overated and a self righteous [censored].

But if he plays fo us, I will only bag him three times a week!

*mirror*

Maybe Harry and Hoges can get a ball , go to the park. The former can practice kicking to the latter

I like it Bee, Harry running 20 out of our defensive 50, kicks it 50 to a hard running lead of Hoges which he has run the pants off his defender and BANG!

I like it Bee, Harry running 20 out of our defensive 50, kicks it 50 to a hard running lead of Hoges which he has run the pants off his defender and BANG!

And you'll get that regularly from HL. No idea why there are posters having a crack at his kicking - at least he doesn't turn it over with bad, sideways kicks or missing a target ahead from 20m away. He isn't Nick Malceski, but is clearly better than anything else we have to offer coming off half back right now.

Or Matt Jones kicking across the face of goal and putting it down the throat of an opponent.

Which he did on more than one occasion.

Pick 21 for H still doesn't sit comfortably. Late second rounder is closer to the mark. Hopefully the grub Clark straight swap scenario is still on the cards although that is looking a lot less likely now.

Which he did on more than one occasion.

Pick 21 for H still doesn't sit comfortably. Late second rounder is closer to the mark. Hopefully the grub Clark straight swap scenario is still on the cards although that is looking a lot less likely now.

I agree - I think we might trade that pick down a little to the 26-28 region and then trade that for HL. Our third rounder will be out as I think that will be used on Stretch.

Or Matt Jones kicking across the face of goal and putting it down the throat of an opponent.

Yes, and McDonald, Howe and Evans, when the latter got a game, doing the same.

People on here need to get some perspective.

Which he did on more than one occasion.

Pick 21 for H still doesn't sit comfortably. Late second rounder is closer to the mark. Hopefully the grub Clark straight swap scenario is still on the cards although that is looking a lot less likely now.

If Collingwood want him out of the club then I agree.

Happy he is coming to the Demons.

I just wish he would change his name again......just to something I can pronounce.

I tell you what I would rather - Lumumba running 20 and kicking it 50 to a contest than Grimes or Terlich chipping it sideways and missing targets in dangerous positions.

Same here. There was a circle jerk forming over his 78.5% kicking efficiency - started by people who either don't watch him play or understand how kicking efficiency is calculated.

For all of those people quoting his kicking efficiency:

Lamumba's 2014 efficiency was 78.5%, Jack Grimes was 78%, Dean Terlich was 76.4%.

Lamumba's efficiency on paper looks much better than what it really is. A kick over 40m, to a 50/50 contest or better is an effective kick. Every time Lamumba bombs it long to a 50/50 contest, it is an effective kick. He does that as much as Grimes/ Terlich kick it short and sideways.

call me crazy, but i'd much prefer that than a sideways chip that is intercepted, or misdirected and turned over like we currently get from Terlich, or an out on the full kick resulting in another turnover like we currently get consistently from Grimes.

People here are forgetting that we barack for the Melbourne Football Club.
Here is what a 10 second google search produces when typing in MFC related words:





I could go on, and on as the ridicule is endless. We are a bloody joke of a club and team. And now we have a premiership, All Australian defender, who is 27 years old, that wants to come to the club and people on here aren't happy because of his disposal, or god knows what else.

GET A CLUE!

Edited September 30, 201410 yr by The Song Formerly Known As

What is to stop him holding back till the pre-season draft if Collingwood want to play hardball? We would be sure to get him with our second pick [and Collingwood would have had to delist him by then].. We can use our second round pick on Malcavaski, end up with two seasoned defenders and Collingwood can get what they richly deserve > Nothing! That way we also would have to deal with Collingwood on Mitch Clark.

What is to stop him holding back till the pre-season draft if Collingwood want to play hardball? We would be sure to get him with our second pick [and Collingwood would have had to delist him by then].. We can use our second round pick on Malcavaski, end up with two seasoned defenders and Collingwood can get what they richly deserve > Nothing! That way we also would have to deal with Collingwood on Mitch Clark.

HL is still under contract and can't go into the pre-season draft.

Same here. There was a circle jerk forming over his 78.5% kicking efficiency - started by people who either don't watch him play or understand how kicking efficiency is calculated.

I don't know where the circle jerk was forming - I was one of the posters who asked to see what it actually was as I thought it was underrated. There are more people willing to pot his kicking than say it's something positive he brings to the side, which is wrong. The above says 4 out of his 5 kicks at least go to a 50/50 contest, and if you watch him play (which I do) you'll know that he kicks is very long to those contests. Nothing wrong with that.

HL is still under contract and can't go into the pre-season draft.

He is currently but he may not be by the time the PSD comes around, particularly as he has told them he does not intend to play with them next year. they would be silly to keep him on their list out of spite.

Wouldn't mind that run, carry, and drive from the back line plus he is extremely competitive (we don't hear that word much round these parts). Can kick a goal too.
But yes, bad pickup by us :/

Edited September 30, 201410 yr by The Song Formerly Known As

Song, dude, calm down

Nobody here is against this trade!

I don't know where the circle jerk was forming - I was one of the posters who asked to see what it actually was as I thought it was underrated. There are more people willing to pot his kicking than say it's something positive he brings to the side, which is wrong. The above says 4 out of his 5 kicks at least go to a 50/50 contest, and if you watch him play (which I do) you'll know that he kicks is very long to those contests. Nothing wrong with that.

Circle jerk may have been overly amorous. Post 675 in this thread quoted a few people talking his kicking up. His kicking is an improvement over the player he will replace, that doesn't make him a good kick.

Compare his kicking to the players who play his role at other teams. His kicking is average for a HBF.

EDIT: I AM IN NO WAY SAYING THIS IS A BAD TRADE OR THAT HE IS A BAD PLAYER. I AM OBJECTIVELY TALKING ABOUT HIS KICKING SKILLS. SUCK EGGS IF YOU CAN'T DEAL WITH THE OPINIONS OF OTHERS.

Edited September 30, 201410 yr by Beats