Wow. You're a tough marker. Yesterday he was moved onto Dallhaus who was carving us up in the second quarter. After Grimes went onto him he went right out of the game and Grimes kicked two goals himself. He was one of our best yesterday.

Grimes had two critical moments that cost us goals, but his second goal was excellent. I'd give him a pass mark, but IMO wasn't in our best.

im hoping roos thinks my god I cant put an untried coach in charge of this team. They need more work and he decides to take up the 3rd year option.

he still hasn't committed to that 3rd year which is a worry

Do you think he "didn't see it coming"? I seem to remember someone else using that expression :-(

He probably didn't see Clark retiring with depression mid season or Hogan out all year thus far, but agree he'd have suspected, irrespective, he was in for a challenging season when he took us on.

interesting to see how he is on afl 360 tonight. He has had 24 hours to digest the game.

Am I alone in thinking our season is tracking as well as could be expected, both within the club and among the general football public? I'm happy that Roos is driving the team to win, after establishing a base level of competitive news and resilience that hasn't been there for more than 5 years.

Roos is frustrated because he is impatient and hates losing, not because we are beyond help.

Am I alone in thinking our season is tracking as well as could be expected, both within the club and among the general football public? I'm happy that Roos is driving the team to win, after establishing a base level of competitive news and resilience that hasn't been there for more than 5 years.

Roos is frustrated because he is impatient and hates losing, not because we are beyond help.

Young padwan, you are not alone.

Do you think he "didn't see it coming"? I seem to remember someone else using that expression :-(

Just stay off the reality bus ...

Young padwan, you are not alone.

Good good!

Am I alone in thinking our season is tracking as well as could be expected, both within the club and among the general football public? I'm happy that Roos is driving the team to win, after establishing a base level of competitive news and resilience that hasn't been there for more than 5 years.

Roos is frustrated because he is impatient and hates losing, not because we are beyond help.

No...ive sitting over here....with the others.

Will he take the hook ( PR) I think he will

Instead of continuing to look towards new players coming in to save us, maybe we need to spend more $$ on skills coaches and skills training, as even our better players turn the ball over far too often and that is where we are getting killed.

Instead of continuing to look towards new players coming in to save us, maybe we need to spend more $$ on skills coaches and skills training, as even our better players turn the ball over far too often and that is where we are getting killed.

( big disclaimer on the below - continual ball butcherers will probably always butcher the ball)

I still maintain a lot of decision making and disposal efficiency comes from confidence in the knowledge of what your teamates are going to do and where they going to run to.

It also means that if you teamates become adept at making 2 or 3 metres of space the necessity to be 100% perfect with you disposal can drop to 90%. Also if you can get the 2 metres clear it means you are less pressured in your disposal.

We have turned the ball over plenty this year - but we have been Hawthorn like compared to last year. thats with half a year of Roos coaching.

There is absolutely no evidence that this is the case. An analysis of free agency moves completed thus far show the spread from/to strong and weak clubs is almost identical.

Autocol, I try not to be rude but that comment is borderline Damian Barret quality.

Who have been the significant players to move, and where did they go? I've made a little list of the ten most significant free agency moves to date, and to help, I've highlighted all the major players who went to a club that was not ether in the upper echelons of wealth/power.

Franklin, to Sydney

Mumford, to GWS

Betts, to Adelaide

Sylvia, to Fremantle

Thomas, to Carlton

Goddard, to Essendon

Young, to Collingwood

Rivers, to Geelong

Moloney, to Brisbane.

Dal Santo to North Melbourne

Soooo, Sydney, Essendon, Carlton, Collingwood, Geelong, Fremantle, Adelaide.

Only missing West Coast and you'd have the precise list of the top-8 'power and wealth' clubs.

But hey, it's early days yet, I'm sure there will not be any cascading effect of gradually entrenched difference over time...

Autocol, I try not to be rude but that comment is borderline Damian Barret quality.

Who have been the significant players to move, and where did they go? I've made a little list of the ten most significant free agency moves to date, and to help, I've highlighted all the major players who went to a club that was not ether in the upper echelons of wealth/power.

Franklin, to Sydney

Mumford, to GWS

Betts, to Adelaide

Sylvia, to Fremantle

Thomas, to Carlton

Goddard, to Essendon

Young, to Collingwood

Rivers, to Geelong

Moloney, to Brisbane.

Dal Santo to North Melbourne

Soooo, Sydney, Essendon, Carlton, Collingwood, Geelong, Fremantle, Adelaide.

Only missing West Coast and you'd have the precise list of the top-8 'power and wealth' clubs.

But hey, it's early days yet, I'm sure there will not be any cascading effect of gradually entrenched difference over time...

Franklin, to Sydney

Hawthorn ain't exactly weak...

Betts, to Adelaide

Neither is Carlton

Sylvia, to Fremantle

Bernie would not be here if we were keener to keep this airhead.

Thomas, to Carlton

Collingwood is the power club.

Goddard, to Essendon

Your Exhibit A.

Young, to Collingwood

Who cares?

Rivers, to Geelong

He was such a hit that Geelong is already looking for his replacement...

From your list - Goddard is the only one that fits this 'big clubs stealing from the small' narrative that a few people are worry-selling.

Smart clubs are making the most of it - I hope we continue to do so.

Smart clubs are making the most of it - I hope we continue to do so.

so do I

Everyone wants a ferarri or a Porsche. There are some damn good utes out there that work all day

One thing i have loved since having Roosy on board is the Systematic approach to our revival, our first task was to get competitive, we now average 40 less points against and have a finals standard defence, next was being able to win games, we have won 4, and probably been in a position to win another 6, next is to eliminate the costly errors which we have to work on but the direction is obvious and it shows we are not far off at all, we could easily have 10 wins and be in the top 8, maybe we wouldn't deserve it for not beating top teams all the time but that's not the point.

and while all this is happening each player has improved at least 15% in my mind, Dunn has gone from an ok player to potentially All Australian, Jetta has gone from delisted to a solid best 22 player shutting down dangerous forwards, Watts looks better, Howe looks better, Dom Tyson and Bernie Vince would be causing all sorts of regrets for their old clubs

so while not winning on the weekend sucks we are in a much better position, i reckon 2015 will see us leapfrog some teams