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With a lot of other teams signing free agents and other soon to be out of contract players .

Anyone in the know on our guys.

Dunn ,mc Donald and obviously Frawley whom already has dedicated thread

There also was one a while back about j k h extending but no official news

 

I think terls might also be ooc

I presume Jack Viney signed on for more than two but I'm not sure of that.

Nev Jetta will likely earn himself re promotion to the main list as well as a two year deal if his current form continues. Is Howe locked up for longer? Another year for Bail if he doesn't have one already.

Besides that the main 3 are the ones you mentioned.

Richmond losing Matty White shows you have to pay careful attention to the bottom of your list but as they aren't free agents I think we will sort it out with everyone besides Frawley and Dunn who we have to work on. The price on the open market on Dunn will be interesting, other teams will certainly be watching. He's playing better than Rivers when Geelong poached him.

 

Expires 2014

James Frawley (UFA), Lynden Dunn (UFA), Tom McDonald, Rohan Bail, Dean Terlich, Jake Spencer, Mitch Clisby, Sam Blease, Dominic Barry, Luke Tapscott, Shannon Byrnes, Daniel Nicholson, James Strauss, Neville Jetta ®, Max King ®, Alex Giorgiou ®, James Harmes ®

Expires 2015

Nathan Jones (UFA), Mark Jamar (UFA), Colin Garland (RFA), Jeremy Howe, Jordie McKenzie, Jack Trengove, Jack Viney, Jesse Hogan, Max Gawn, Jimmy Toumpas, Jack Fitzpatrick, Daniel Cross, Michael Evans, Cameron Pedersen, Christian Salem, Jay Kennedy-Harris, Jayden Hunt, Aidan Riley

Expires 2016

Jack Grimes (RFA), Jack Watts (RFA), Chris Dawes, Bernie Vince, Dean Kent, Matt Jones, Viv Michie

Expires 2017
Dom Tyson

Dunny is going to be in for the mother of all pay rises

hes been borderline AA this year


I'd also suggest ro bail has improved his value

  On 04/06/2014 at 08:51, DavidNeitz9 said:

Expires 2014

James Frawley (UFA), Lynden Dunn (UFA), Tom McDonald, Rohan Bail, Dean Terlich, Jake Spencer, Mitch Clisby, Sam Blease, Dominic Barry, Luke Tapscott, Shannon Byrnes, Daniel Nicholson, James Strauss, Neville Jetta ®, Max King ®, Alex Giorgiou ®, James Harmes ®

Expires 2015

Nathan Jones (UFA), Mark Jamar (UFA), Colin Garland (RFA), Jeremy Howe, Jordie McKenzie, Jack Trengove, Jack Viney, Jesse Hogan, Max Gawn, Jimmy Toumpas, Jack Fitzpatrick, Daniel Cross, Michael Evans, Cameron Pedersen, Christian Salem, Jay Kennedy-Harris, Jayden Hunt, Aidan Riley

Expires 2016

Jack Grimes (RFA), Jack Watts (RFA), Chris Dawes, Bernie Vince, Dean Kent, Matt Jones, Viv Michie

Expires 2017

Dom Tyson

Geeze, we got some bloody signing to do in the next few years!

Lucky we are playing better.

Looking at the guys on the list for this year, it looks like we'll be fairly active in the draft. You'd think at the moment that Blease, Strauss, Tapscott, and Barry are all on thin ice. Clisby seems to be doing better but can't crack a game in the seniors and Byrnes is probably retiring. Even if we keep the others, that's still five or six gone.

 
  On 04/06/2014 at 08:51, DavidNeitz9 said:

Expires 2014

James Frawley (UFA), Lynden Dunn (UFA), Tom McDonald, Rohan Bail, Dean Terlich, Jake Spencer, Mitch Clisby, Sam Blease, Dominic Barry, Luke Tapscott, Shannon Byrnes, Daniel Nicholson, James Strauss, Neville Jetta ®, Max King ®, Alex Giorgiou ®, James Harmes ®

Expires 2015

Nathan Jones (UFA), Mark Jamar (UFA), Colin Garland (RFA), Jeremy Howe, Jordie McKenzie, Jack Trengove, Jack Viney, Jesse Hogan, Max Gawn, Jimmy Toumpas, Jack Fitzpatrick, Daniel Cross, Michael Evans, Cameron Pedersen, Christian Salem, Jay Kennedy-Harris, Jayden Hunt, Aidan Riley

Expires 2016

Jack Grimes (RFA), Jack Watts (RFA), Chris Dawes, Bernie Vince, Dean Kent, Matt Jones, Viv Michie

Expires 2017

Dom Tyson

Fascinating to see who goes here. Tapscott, Byrnes and Nicholson will be first out the door. Strauss, Blease and Barry will be next in line. I'd say we'll delist 6. I think Frawley will stay, so it'll be interesting to see whether they keep Spencer and they'll upgrade Georgiou and Jetta.

I reckon I can see 4 that will be on the chopping block for 2015, but a long way to go there.

I think we'll re-sign everyone for next year.

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Does grand new flag have any inside info or any with good sources


  On 04/06/2014 at 10:08, AdamFarr said:

Fascinating to see who goes here. Tapscott, Byrnes and Nicholson will be first out the door. Strauss, Blease and Barry will be next in line. I'd say we'll delist 6. I think Frawley will stay, so it'll be interesting to see whether they keep Spencer and they'll upgrade Georgiou and Jetta.

I reckon I can see 4 that will be on the chopping block for 2015, but a long way to go there.

I think we'll re-sign everyone for next year.

Doubt Spencer is going anywhere given Jamar is almost a month by month proposition and besides Gawn that's all we have. In fact you could almost add another mature rookie depending on confidence in Fitzy.

Also think Georgiou is perfect to keep on the rookie list until he shows he can be more than just depth. No rush in promoting him. And the other thing is to not forget Clark is gone. So Jetta's promotion takes his spot.

If no one leaves and there's not much outstanding in the trade or free agent market it would be nice from a stability to point to just delist the 5 or 6 and then bring in a 4 or so new draftees and maybe 1 mature ager, trade or free agent. That's how Geelong have worked it for so long. Sydney like to mix and match and bring in some alternative talents but for the stage we are at I think the draft represents our best crack. We'll have guys like Michie and Riley who we might not have tested out much this year to have a shot next year.

We have some players to get signatures from in the short term but how good is it not have to worry about Tyson's again until 2017. He's probably underpaid already

Seems increasingly clear to me Roos will be doing a top to bottom evaluation of our list and each player at the end of the season (during finals most likely) to determine

A. Which players need to be kept and for how long

B. How much $ each player deserves based on performance

C. Who they're planning to recruit and making sure they have enough money left in the kitty to land a big fish or two

Also likely they needed to wait to see the equalization measures (salary cap increase, having to pay 100%), because they all have a large bearing on player payments if they have big recruitment plans in motion.

Probably just making it easier on themselves by going through the whole process at the same time, rather than shortsightedly doing it throughout the season and not leaving themselves enough money to recruit whoever they're (likely already) targeting.

This seems as good a place as any to ask this question.

With the changes announced by the AFL today, in particular the banking of the last 2 season's of "underpaying" the TPP, where does that leave us? Does anyone know whether we were 92.5%, 95%, 100% of the TPP over the 2013 & 2014 seasons? I recall a couple of years back under the Harrington era of list management we front ended a lot of contracts so we could chase players (the reason why Frawley is UFA & not RFA). There's also the issue of the Clark payout.

My thinking is that this may give us a little more squeeze room with the likes of Frawley & Dunn who are both UFA. Perhaps the club has been holding off on resigning until the AFL's position on the matter became clearer.


  On 04/06/2014 at 10:22, Georgiou R.R. Martin said:

Doubt Spencer is going anywhere given Jamar is almost a month by month proposition and besides Gawn that's all we have. In fact you could almost add another mature rookie depending on confidence in Fitzy.

Also think Georgiou is perfect to keep on the rookie list until he shows he can be more than just depth. No rush in promoting him. And the other thing is to not forget Clark is gone. So Jetta's promotion takes his spot.

If no one leaves and there's not much outstanding in the trade or free agent market it would be nice from a stability to point to just delist the 5 or 6 and then bring in a 4 or so new draftees and maybe 1 mature ager, trade or free agent. That's how Geelong have worked it for so long. Sydney like to mix and match and bring in some alternative talents but for the stage we are at I think the draft represents our best crack. We'll have guys like Michie and Riley who we might not have tested out much this year to have a shot next year.

Yeah, you're right on Spencer. I had Fitzy in my 2015 delist list, but still a long way to go, so we'll see. Especially with his physical attributes.

Probably right call on Georgiou too and good point, RE: Jetta.

I think 6 should be minimum. There's still a lot of dead weight on the list and we want lots of competition for spots next year.

I'd hope Michie and Riley can crack the season side a bit as some of the younger guys currently in the 1's tire.

  On 04/06/2014 at 11:03, stuie said:

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panic..??

you've been following his career ?

Hes going NO WHERE

seriously. He so Melbourne he make me feel inadequate ..lol

  On 04/06/2014 at 08:52, hogans_heroes said:

Dunny is going to be in for the mother of all pay rises

hes been borderline AA this year

Borderline AA? He's been good but not that good. Doubt anyone other than Melbourne people think so. Dom Tyson, yes. Nate Jones, maybe. Good dream, though.

  On 04/06/2014 at 11:06, AdamFarr said:

Yeah, you're right on Spencer. I had Fitzy in my 2015 delist list, but still a long way to go, so we'll see. Especially with his physical attributes.

Probably right call on Georgiou too and good point, RE: Jetta.

I think 6 should be minimum. There's still a lot of dead weight on the list and we want lots of competition for spots next year.

I'd hope Michie and Riley can crack the season side a bit as some of the younger guys currently in the 1's tire.

I've got it at 5 plus Clark which is 6. Barry is the one up in the air but he's got pace, endurance and is following the coaches instructions at Casey. Even if he's not getting a kick I think he finds another year. McKenzie, Fitzy and Evans are 3 who are contracted but could be traded out but I doubt there's much interest and all 3 have shown something at AFL level so you never know if a second preseason under Roos could turn them around. In fact they could all play big roles in the rest of this year.


  On 04/06/2014 at 11:13, beelzebub said:

panic..??

you've been following his career ?

Hes going NO WHERE

seriously. He so Melbourne he make me feel inadequate ..lol

He means that much to me/us that I won't feel settled until he's signed on for another 4 years min.

  On 04/06/2014 at 11:27, stuie said:

He means that much to me/us that I won't feel settled until he's signed on for another 4 years min.

im sure you'll be ok Stuie

  On 04/06/2014 at 11:32, beelzebub said:

im sure you'll be ok Stuie

I'll be in my panic room, or standing right next to it...

 
  On 04/06/2014 at 11:39, stuie said:

I'll be in my panic room, or standing right next to it...

Take a number in the queue Stuie...

  On 04/06/2014 at 11:39, stuie said:

I'll be in my panic room, or standing right next to it...

Stuey if he hasn't left before now, I'd say we are fairly safe once we don't take him for granted


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