DEMONLAND PLAYER OF THE YEAR - ROUND 4

[ManDee 7,160]

6. N. Jones - Give him the car, now

5. Frawley - Great effort , made easier by having Dawes in side.

4. Viney - Love him he's a tank.

3. Spencer - Never would have believed it, second efforts and mongrel.

2. Grimes - Hard at it never gives in.

1. Dawes - The sculptor, we have shape

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Because we haven't won in like a year I couldn't resist counting this one up in the old 10-9-8-7-6-5 method I used to do at demonology

371 - N.Jones

335 - J.Frawley

310 - T.McDonald

160 - J.Grimes

146 - J.Spencer

132 - R.Bail

128 - J.Viney

123 - D.Cross

60 - M.Jones

48 - C.Dawes

25 - L.Dunn

12 - C.Pederson

5 - D.Kent

[DeeZee 7,405]

6 N.Jones

5.Frawley

4.Grimes

3.T Mac

2. viney

1. JKH

[ManDee 7,160]

Because we haven't won in like a year I couldn't resist counting this one up in the old 10-9-8-7-6-5 method I used to do at demonology

371 - N.Jones

335 - J.Frawley

310 - T.McDonald

160 - J.Grimes

146 - J.Spencer

132 - R.Bail

128 - J.Viney

123 - D.Cross

60 - M.Jones

48 - C.Dawes

25 - L.Dunn

12 - C.Pederson

5 - D.Kent

An observation, these players are not pretty to watch or highly skilled. By and large they are hard working grafters.

If you had to list our most talented 5 players I don't think any of these 12 would be on it.

It would be nice to see our most talented players take the step up.

Edit: My most talented. Watts - Salem -Toumpas -Tyson - Hogan

Edited April 14, 2014 by ManDee

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

An observation, these players are not pretty to watch or highly skilled. By and large they are hard working grafters.

If you had to list our most talented 5 players I don't think any of these 12 would be on it.

It would be nice to see our most talented players take the step up.

Edit: My most talented. Watts - Salem -Toumpas -Tyson - Hogan

and Howe I would add

[Bagdana 58]

Just off topic for a second, Bitter but optimistic, pg1 #24, gave 5 to N Jones with the comment "This bloke deserves a Brownlow".

Now I'm not saying that he will or even is a good chance to win but 500 to 1 for the Brownlow? I've had some of that.

Not that stats tell the whole picture but in 2012 he averaged 24.6 possessions a game and polled 14 votes in a team that won 4 games. He also missed a game.

This year, so far he has averaged 29.5 possessions a game and is being released by Tyson and Crossy. In my view he was BOG on Saturday and could poll in two other games if lucky. Surely worth a look. Even for a top three finsh he is paying 126 to 1.

Go Nugget!

P.S. having a bald head to get noticed doesn't hurt.

[ManDee 7,160]

and Howe I would add

If you add Howe to the most talented five who do you omit? My most talented list. Watts - Salem -Toumpas -Tyson - Hogan

Edited April 14, 2014 by ManDee

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

If you add Howe to the most talented five who do you omit? My most talented list. Watts - Salem -Toumpas -Tyson - Hogan

I don't have any basis at all for including Salem and Toumpas

[ManDee 7,160]

I don't have any basis at all for including Salem and Toumpas

The premise was most talented. These two have talent in abundance. Most experts had them in top 3 midfielders in their respective draft years.Whether either will ever deliver on that talent is any ones guess. I suspect both will make it.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

The premise was most talented. These two have talent in abundance. Most experts had them in top 3 midfielders in their respective draft years.Whether either will ever deliver on that talent is any ones guess. I suspect both will make it.

Trengove goes unmentioned on the same criteria?

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

If you add Howe to the most talented five who do you omit? My most talented list. Watts - Salem -Toumpas -Tyson - Hogan

It depends...how are you defining talent? Skills? If so, which skills? Watts and Toumpas are both beautiful kicks, but their tackling isn't great and both are far behind Howe in marking ability. I haven't seen enough of Hogan or Salem to comment on their "talents", but I do agree that Tyson is a very complete footballer (great hands, kicking, tackling).

I would argue that Dunn is quickly moving up the list of most talented people at the club, and I think that Jones is at the top of that list.

[ManDee 7,160]

Trengove goes unmentioned on the same criteria?

I don't think Trenners is in the top 5 for talent perhaps in top 8. And certainly is not delivering on his talent.

[ManDee 7,160]

It depends...how are you defining talent? Skills? If so, which skills? Watts and Toumpas are both beautiful kicks, but their tackling isn't great and both are far behind Howe in marking ability. I haven't seen enough of Hogan or Salem to comment on their "talents", but I do agree that Tyson is a very complete footballer (great hands, kicking, tackling).

I would argue that Dunn is quickly moving up the list of most talented people at the club, and I think that Jones is at the top of that list.

Dunn has under delivered on his talent for years. We tend to forget, this week he delivered. Pick 15 2004 a pretty good draft Delidio Roughhead Griffin Franklin. To me he is an honest toiler with some good skills. But you cannot compare him to someone like Watts who has sublime talent but rarely displays it.

Don't get me wrong, give me a team with 5 Nathan Jones anyday, he always gives 100% never plays a bad game and leads by example, his talent is mid range but guts and determination unmatched, he does the absolute best with his talent. Viney is developing the same way, love him. From what I've seen of Hogan he will also deliver.

In an ideal world you put Nathan Jones head on Jack Watt's body and stand back.

Edited April 14, 2014 by ManDee