And I know what the B+F results are - I also know that Frawley is better than Terlich.

Just need to see what the market thinks. I'm pretty confident, indeed certain, that every other club would pay more for Frawley's signature than Terlich's.

frawley shouldn't make public statements that give the impression he is holding a gun to roos head, afterall roos was understanding with frawley's stance, empathetic too and then frawley turns around and does this, poor form

frawley shouldn't make public statements that give the impression he is holding a gun to roos head, afterall roos was understanding with frawley's stance, empathetic too and then frawley turns around and does this, poor form

It was a joke, PJ was standing about 3 metres away during the presser, see my earlier post, didn't have a problem, seemed to like Chip's answers

It was a joke, PJ was standing about 3 metres away during the presser, see my earlier post, didn't have a problem, seemed to like Chip's answers

No idea why anyone who saw it would have any other opinion Saty

Is that you, Dr Who?

frawley shouldn't make public statements that give the impression he is holding a gun to roos head, afterall roos was understanding with frawley's stance, empathetic too and then frawley turns around and does this, poor form

Loosen up buddy, have a laugh. Chipper is a prankster from way back

We could always get Gary Lyon to help choose the successor!

I'm sure Frawley would appreciate that and sign immediately!

We could always get Gary Lyon to help choose the successor!

I'm sure Frawley would appreciate that and sign immediately!

Gold

That's because I didn't see it old dee, no idea why you didn't think of that

That's because I didn't see it old dee, no idea why you didn't think of that

Actually was not aimed at you Lw

I was making the observation if anyone saw it they would know it was all tongue in cheek.

That is all!

I will believe Frawley will stay a Demon only after seeing a signature.

Been down this road before.

apologies od

apologies od

No problem Lw

Have a good day

That's because I didn't see it old dee, no idea why you didn't think of that

Maybe because you were commenting on it.

yeah, you can change your signature by just practising something different, it's not hard

I will believe Frawley will stay a Demon only after seeing a signature.

Been down this road before.

Once-bitten twice shy, eh WYL?

frawley shouldn't make public statements that give the impression he is holding a gun to roos head, afterall roos was understanding with frawley's stance, empathetic too and then frawley turns around and does this, poor form

He shouldn't make statements expressing that he likes his coach and wants to continue playing under him? Okay then.

Once-bitten twice shy, eh WYL?

I think I agree with him Chook.

The glimmer of hope is he has not yet said " I want to be a demon for life."

As soon as those words are uttered you can put the house on him leaving.

Once-bitten twice shy, eh WYL?

We all have mate.

The Press Conference whereby the subject is not answered. Talked about ad nauseum but not answered.

I know exactly what that means.

Jack was exactly the same and he signed.

yeah chook, good name, the point I was making was from the headlines that he wanted roos to increase his tenure and he would too, what I didn't do was watch the footage, I hope you understand

This whole seven coaches in seven years thing really annoys me.

'Technically' true, but does it really represent the true state of affairs? No, it's just an easy way for the media to over-dramatise the situation.

Included in the seven coaches are Mark Riley, Todd Viney and Neil Craig, who were never appointed as full-time senior coaches. Riley coached less than half a year, Viney about five games and Craig half a season.

Then they include Daniher and Roos. Daniher coached Frawley for half a season in his first year and Roos is yet to coach Frawley in a home-and-away match.

So as much as the '7 in 7' years sounds nice and fluffy for the media, the reality is he has essentially played primarily under two coaches...Bailey and Neeld.

I know they are trying to paint Melbourne as a club that regularly sacks its coaches, but that couldn't be further from the truth. I am 31 and have only seen one coach sacked early in his tenure...Neeld. Compare this to many other clubs and it is quite favourable.

Initially I agreed, because (I imagine) like you I think of it as 3 "real" new coaching regimes that Frawley has been under.

Daniher barely counts because that era was over (in my view).

Known-to-be temporary caretakers don't count (in my view).

So he's "really" been there in the Bailey era, the Neeld era, and now the Roos era.

Key eras in the life of the club, and by proxy an MFC supporter.

But if we are to think of it in terms of the evolution and development of an individual player, I think that stat has actual meaning.

7 coaches in 7 years.

Daniher, Riley, Bailey, Viney, Neeld, Craig, Roos.

Definitely some were more significant than others and stayed longer.

But Frawley had a different voice selling a different message and a different gameplan, changing over each and every year on average.

Sure, some were known to be temporary, but was he any less required to listen to the words and attempt to implement the gameplan?

What would the reaction have been if he simply switched off to wait for the next coach?

How was he to know there would be a next coach?

Riley, Viney & Craig could have feasibly continued in the role.

It's painful to think about, but it does pay to bear in mind the crippling instability Frawley has faced during his career, when the one man who he should be looking to for direction has been frequently changing, and the tune changing with him.

You have to remember that as a player - the bloke taking training for a few months of a season is remembered as a coach.

Frawley would have had 7 of those voices.

Mind-boggling and gut-wrenching when you try to imagine yourself in Frawley's shoes, not to mention other players.

You'd hate to think how many more-than-salvageable careers were consigned to the scrapheap as a result.

Edited February 19, 201411 yr by Machsy