Any sign of Gary Lyon at training?

Appreciate all efforts with reports.

I want this 'end of November' feeling to hang around a bit longer going into next year...

Fingers crossed.

Look at any other teams kick in strategies. Not hard to dissect. It is about the ability to work hard and present, not once, not twice but multiple times until your opponent drops off or you find a hole in the zone. Number one thing to eliminate from last year is laziness from the players in the defensive 50 and we are more than half way there. ( I felt sorry for the poor [censored] at full back kicking out last year who would look up the ground and see concrete pillars wearing Melbourne jumpers)

Oh no!!! Surely you don't mean gut running, second, third and fourth efforts and doing stuff as a team? What a revelation.........why hasn't anyone at MFC thought of that in the last half dozen years??

Mark Neeld was an utter catastrophe who helped bring this club to its knees and oversaw one of the worst on-field performance by a non expansion club in 100 years and I'm now meant to go easy on him ? To stop belittling him for such divisiveness ?

Look, I appreciate all of the well-meaning souls that would like me to move on. I empathise with the compassionate views that have his well-being firmly at heart, but I'm afraid you can GAGF. He's a stain on our history and I'll remember him as such and make commentary as I deem appropriate.

Great assistant coach, probably a great teacher and maybe a good guy, but I have no interest in those elements of his make-up. I will always see his coaching exploits in the sinister way they deserve.

This question is probably hard to answer given the nature of the current training, but have you seen Toumpas kick the ball any distance? Most passages of play I've witnessed shows him kicking nice passes but nothing really penetrating.

Round 23 v Bulldogs:

I recall Toumpas kicking the ball 40 metres with pin point accuracy and hitting Dunn on the chest which resulted in a goal.

I think he started to exhibit a bit of confidence after his most recent visit to Casey. His first half against Adelaide in rd 22 was promising.

Unless he's a clone of Cale Morton, I'll find if hard to believe that a pick 4 won't make it or at best be an ordinary fringe afl player. I have high hopes for Toumpas despite a slow debut season.

Oh no!!! Surely you don't mean gut running, second, third and fourth efforts and doing stuff as a team? What a revelation.........why hasn't anyone at MFC thought of that in the last half dozen years??

Actually you don't have to gut run yourself into the ground. It is more about having the confidence to present and re-present yourself for the slick 20 to 30 meter pass. Why is that so hard at AFL level but gee it has been absent from MFC play for the last 5 years? I can remember round 1 2011 was it? When we had a draw with the Swans at the G. We had fought tooth and nail to hold a lead and in the last minutes I remember, I think Petterd taking a mark at the 70 meter mark on the northern flank and screaming for a target. I was sitting on the opposite pocket and noticed Dunn actually run from a position in the clear to pick up a Swans defender. I could not believe it. He just needed to run straight at Petterd for the pass and a chest mark. Take it kick a point even and we win. But don't blame Dunn because he was just one, no one else presented. It has been a huge problem for us in recent years. We do not trust each other to back ourselves in the contest. I believe when we do we will see big improvement. The quality of the cattle is important but getting the herd moving as one is just as important and this is where Roos can make a big difference and quickly.

It's time to let go of the Neeld bashing. He's not the first or last coach to not make it at a struggling club. For all its worth, the guy is now trying to find work back in the teaching game as his prospects in senior coaching were absolutely destroyed by the media and the club's performances in general.

Maybe let him be hey fellas.

FWIW Malthouse offered him a midfield job at Carltank and he knocked it back, so let's not break out the mini violins to early.

Absolute truckload of awesome pics from Monday training at Getty images

Enjoy!

http://www.gettyimages.com.au/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&assetType=image&family=Editorial&p=demons&clarification=demons%3A79001

Absolute truckload of awesome pics from Monday training at Getty images

Enjoy!

http://www.gettyimages.com.au/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&assetType=image&family=Editorial&p=demons&clarification=demons%3A79001

There's a fairly unflattering photo of Hogan in there!

There's a fairly unflattering photo of Hogan in there!

did notice that

There's a fairly unflattering photo of Hogan in there!

Yeah, he sure needs a haircut

Yeah, he sure needs a haircut

think he might have mean skinfolds r&b

think he might have mean skinfolds r&b

................. and not surprising given his knee niggle.