Stories are that the saints may put him up for trade. Should we consider him? He is 29 is fit and is a great player. Plus he always cuts us up when we play the saints.

he and Jones would be great in the centre and he also kicks goals.

I'd be surprised if he is up for trade to be honest, it's abit like Ryan Griffen at the dogs, these coaches know they need experience there during the rebuild.

if he is, and they don't want too much i'd look at him.

I'd be surprised if he is up for trade to be honest, it's abit like Ryan Griffen at the dogs, these coaches know they need experience there during the rebuild.

if he is, and they don't want too much i'd look at him.

Be rather surprised also. They need to retain some able bodies.

I'd be surprised if he is up for trade to be honest, it's abit like Ryan Griffen at the dogs, these coaches know they need experience there during the rebuild.

if he is, and they don't want too much i'd look at him.

A bit different to Griffen (much younger and future captain), but I get your point. I'm not sure that the way Waters is acting isn't Neeld mark II, something not quite right about these Malthouse coaches.

...Montagna is not what we are after.

What about him?

Saints would want pick 2.

They can keep Joey & GAGF.

Why trade for a 29yo midfielder when we can possibly pick up Cross [who is much the same age] for nothing in the pre-season draft? As we have second pick [assuming we do not do a "Hannath"] then it is unlikely that we would miss out. Let us keep all our low draft picks for younger midfielders.

Usually, the point of picking up mature players who are past their prime is to provide good veteran-leadership to a rebuilding team. This little [censored] is a cancer, and there is no chance in hell I'd want him, especially since the 'Aints likely want a big package in return for him.

Why trade for a 29yo midfielder when we can possibly pick up Cross [who is much the same age] for nothing in the pre-season draft? As we have second pick [assuming we do not do a "Hannath"] then it is unlikely that we would miss out. Let us keep all our low draft picks for younger midfielders.

Is there a thread on the pre-season draft or is this draft just a joke?

Who is available or likely to be available?

Is it worth considering acquiring pick 1? (through trade).

Does any decent player actually get picked up this way?

From Wiki:

Pick 1's

2007 - Cain Ackland (Carlton)

2008 - David Gourdis (Richmond)

2009 - Liam Jurrah (Melbourne)

2010 - Joel Macdonald (Melbourne)

2011 - Nathan Ablett (Gold Coast)

2012 - Aaron Hall (Gold Coast)

Notable pre-season draft picks:

Shane O'Bree - #1 2000 pre-season draft

Brett Voss - #1 2001 Pre Season Draft

Craig Bolton - #3 2003 pre-season draft

Nick Stevens - #2 2004 pre-season draft

Jacob Surjan - #10 2004 pre-season draft

Josh Mahoney - #12 2004 pre-season draft

Eddie Betts - #3 2005 pre-season draft

Scott Camporeale - #4 2006 pre-season draft

Mal Michael - #2 2007 pre-season draft

Cameron Cloke - #9 2007 pre-season draft

Scott Welsh - #4 2008 pre-season draft

Ben Cousins - #6 2009 pre-season draft

Nathan Ablett - #1 2011 pre-season draft

Bachar Houli - #3 2011 pre-season draft

Cameron Bruce - #5 2011 pre-season draft

Jack Anthony - #6 2011 pre-season draft

Edited September 19, 201311 yr by Young Dee

Stories are that the saints may put him up for trade. Should we consider him? He is 29 is fit and is a great player. Plus he always cuts us up when we play the saints.

he and Jones would be great in the centre and he also kicks goals.

Not Montagna, for me, & not a saints player pref.

If we are to recruit some Elders 28 or above, please make it from either the Cats, Swans, Hawks.

IMO wee need to Firstly change our style to head over the footy (as a first step) with strong bodies playing strong footy... and then a close Second we need to play players who won't lose focus under the Heat of pressure.

after we've established these things into out play styles we could then go for some more average bodied types who area also good runners, who get to spots.

.... the fact that the Saints are willing to deal-out the likes of Delsanto & Montagna suggests that Watters sees their games limitations as mentors,

in the way he wants the club to change toward....

A bit different to Griffen (much younger and future captain), but I get your point. I'm not sure that the way Waters is acting isn't Neeld mark II, something not quite right about these Malthouse coaches.

...Montagna is not what we are after.

all clubs with soft cultures are working to alleviate it.

the saints have a poor culture & missed the chance to fix it. because they were already rolling when Lyon got there. so he built ontop of it.

they failed, again.

Still got some legs, if saints didn't want much for him I would take him, good player. Not too many issues. I don't see how it could back fire unless he did a shannon byrnes on us. Speeking of Byrnes, he needs to smarten up, realise this isn't just an extra year of wages to end his career and that he has to actually have a crack. No free rides Shannon.

Stories are that the saints may put him up for trade. Should we consider him? He is 29 is fit and is a great player. Plus he always cuts us up when we play the saints.

he and Jones would be great in the centre and he also kicks goals.

I'm all for adding experience to our young list and especially our midfield. But it's stated in the article st.kilda will only only consider trading montagna for a high pick, which would be ludicrous of Melbourne to do. Think you will find only clubs that think they are a shot at a premiership in the next few years will make a play for Joey.

We should be looking at a young to mid 20's age player to trade pick 2 or explore free agency

FFS - you can't trade PSD picks...

Id rather Montagna than Cross, my bulldogs mates were always complaining that he couldnt kick over a jam tin.

Usually, the point of picking up mature players who are past their prime is to provide good veteran-leadership to a rebuilding team. This little [censored] is a cancer, and there is no chance in hell I'd want him, especially since the 'Aints likely want a big package in return for him.

Can personally guarantee that Joey is an outstanding bloke and the type of player/person the Dees need to help the kids develop. Having said that, St Kilda won't trade him unless someone presents an offer too good to refuse.

Id rather Montagna than Cross, my bulldogs mates were always complaining that he couldnt kick over a jam tin.

Would fit in perfectly at Melbourne.

Rather than turn this into a debate of Montagna vs Del Santo vs Cross let's accept than any of the above would generate short-term improvement and let roos & Co. assess what they will cost us. We should not elect to bring in older players near the end of their careers unless the deal is exceptional.