Would the players ...... ?

[Redjacket 760]

Intentionally lose or not play at their best just to spite the CEO/The Admin/Board/Coach?

I keep hearing this as a possibility to explain the poor performances and if true then this is even worse than tanking and is completely guttering for supporters who bleed for the club.

Say it aint so!

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Intentionally lose or not play at their best just to spite the CEO/The Admin/Board/Coach?

I keep hearing this as a possibility to explain the poor performances and if true then this is even worse than tanking and is completely guttering for supporters who bleed for the club.

Say it aint so!

Wasn't that what the whole 186 thing was all about?

[Redjacket 760]

Wasn't that what the whole 186 thing was all about?

That's what I'm talking about too and as a lifelong supporter and member I find that abhorent and worse than any poor administration or coaching.

It's the players being completely selfish and putting themselves above the club, above us as supporters.

I could understand if they were rebelling to oppose poor working conditions or because they were being paid below minimum wage and working in a sweatshop with no dental plan but FFS need I go on.

[dazzledavey36 55,995]

No. This is a silly thread. Doesn't matter what is going on behind the scenes player wouldn't not go out and pretend just play [censored]! The players go out to try and play to the best they can and bust there ass out there because they want to WIN! yes it may look that they are not trying but being an AFL player is full time. they get paid for it its all part of the job. Do you think jimmy Toumpas who is new, first year player, 2nd game would go out there to play [censored] because oh what maybe could be going on behind the scenes? hell no! the kid wants to make a career out of this and you can tell he busts his ass for it. Trust me I have been there it is a totally different mindset when you run out into the ground! Your so focused on your game, the structures, beating your man etc.

[rjay 25,360]

No. This is a silly thread. Doesn't matter what is going on behind the scenes player wouldn't not go out and pretend just play [censored]! The players go out to try and play to the best they can and bust there ass out there because they want to WIN! yes it may look that they are not trying but being an AFL player is full time. they get paid for it its all part of the job. Do you think jimmy Toumpas who is new, first year player, 2nd game would go out there to play [censored] because oh what maybe could be going on behind the scenes? hell no! the kid wants to make a career out of this and you can tell he busts his ass for it. Trust me I have been there it is a totally different mindset when you run out into the ground! Your so focused on your game, the structures, beating your man etc.

You are spot on...of course the players are trying, they are not intentionally going out to lose games of football, make themselves look stupid and unemployable in the future.

It's the environment that is toxic and this makes it hard for them to perform at their best despite good intentions.

[Mono 457]

You are spot on...of course the players are trying, they are not intentionally going out to lose games of football, make themselves look stupid and unemployable in the future.

It's the environment that is toxic and this makes it hard for them to perform at their best despite good intentions.

Excellent training facilities, whole new FD with any resource they want, Royal aside lots of youngish coaches (ie contemporary), once a week at Casey - excellent surface........

What's toxic about this? (If you are talking about Schwab again, or the board, I bet they are virtually invisible. Jees, they must be evil personified. FFS)