mjt 640 Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 On 12/03/2013 at 06:20, stuie said: Haha who said anything about paying millions? Yeah let's just pass on a superstar cos he's coming back from an injury 18 months before we'd go after him... They're both the same age, but Betts has been the sole true forward option for a decent performing team and Le Cras for a very poor but then very good team. In their last 3 seasons Betts has kicked 150, Le Cras has kicked 168. As a crumbing forward i don't think the ACL he's coming back from (after having the full operation and recovery, no short cuts) will hinder him like it would a high leaping big forward. If you look at their output there's not a huge difference, so to bag someone's footy knowledge for edging out Le Cras over Betts is stupidity, which is your usual standard. Ones coming back from a serious knee injury and the others fully fit, your posts reeks of stupidity, there both great players stuie but a healthy fit non injured Betts destroys a an ACL riddled Le Cras any day of the week, and by the way how much do you think it would cost us to get him to move from the Eagles? Quote
stuie 7,374 Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 On 12/03/2013 at 06:30, mjt said: Ones coming back from a serious knee injury and the others fully fit, your posts reeks of stupidity, there both great players stuie but a healthy fit non injured Betts destroys a an ACL riddled Le Cras any day of the week, and by the way how much do you think it would cost us to get him to move from the Eagles? I'm guessing it would cost the same as getting Betts... Especially seeing as Carlton wouldn't want to give up they're only performing forward. Tell you what mate, if Le Cras doesn't play well this year I'll change my name here to stupid for a month, if he does then, well you won't have to change yours as it's synonymous with stupidity. Quote
mjt 640 Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 On 12/03/2013 at 07:47, stuie said: I'm guessing it would cost the same as getting Betts... Especially seeing as Carlton wouldn't want to give up they're only performing forward. Tell you what mate, if Le Cras doesn't play well this year I'll change my name here to stupid for a month, if he does then, well you won't have to change yours as it's synonymous with stupidity. Stuie and stupid are pretty close. Quote
stuie 7,374 Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 On 12/03/2013 at 07:49, mjt said: Stuie and stupid are pretty close. Damn right we are, you won't leave me alone... Quote
At Least I Saw a Flag 5,354 Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 Now come on kids. Settle down, or you'll both have to go to your rooms!! Quote
CatFishPig 465 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 I'd have Eddie sitting in the pocket. Reports say he is asking 600k a year, no way, but we might give him more than the blues. He would kill it under Clark. Dawes Hogan. With Howe and Watts running through. Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,474 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 On 30/07/2013 at 03:51, CatFishPig said: I'd have Eddie sitting in the pocket. Reports say he is asking 600k a year, no way, but we might give him more than the blues. He would kill it under Clark. Dawes Hogan. With Howe and Watts running through. worth a serious thought with a good coach. He aint worth $600k's so good luck with that dream Eddie. 1 Quote
mjt 640 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 On 12/03/2013 at 07:47, stuie said: I'm guessing it would cost the same as getting Betts... Especially seeing as Carlton wouldn't want to give up they're only performing forward. Tell you what mate, if Le Cras doesn't play well this year I'll change my name here to stupid for a month, if he does then, well you won't have to change yours as it's synonymous with stupidity. Little Stuies what type of season has LeCras had. 1 Quote
Weedster 174 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 Say it slowly - SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS .. A YEAR ... Tell him he's dreamin' 2 Quote
The Chazz 4,077 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 Might've made it up, but was it Roos that commented on the weekend that a couple of teams (may have included the Swans), were shying away from a true small forward? Regardless, Betts is a very interesting one. Obviously not worth the dollars he's asking, has also had a shocker this year, but given the firepower of our forward line next year, and compare it to what Carlton have got, he'd be a better player for us, but is that good enough? Quote
Scoop Junior 3,582 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 I don't regard Betts as the type of small forward we need. He is more a lead-up player and would get a fair share of his goals from marks. He can crumb, and he has pace, but I don't think he is at the same level in these two attributes as the better small forwards in the competition. I also think he lacks that element of magic and X factor that the better small forwards have. We have marking power in our forward line but a genuine lack of pace and X factor at ground level. Betts, for me, would not fulfil this role. 2 Quote
rjay 25,427 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 On 30/07/2013 at 04:05, billy2803 said: Might've made it up, but was it Roos that commented on the weekend that a couple of teams (may have included the Swans), were shying away from a true small forward? Regardless, Betts is a very interesting one. Obviously not worth the dollars he's asking, has also had a shocker this year, but given the firepower of our forward line next year, and compare it to what Carlton have got, he'd be a better player for us, but is that good enough? I agree with this thought, a true small forward is worth jack... Apart from your back 3, pretty much everyone else is a mid these days. The Milne/Betts type small forward offers nothing. Quote
CatFishPig 465 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 On 30/07/2013 at 04:19, Scoop Junior said: I don't regard Betts as the type of small forward we need. He is more a lead-up player and would get a fair share of his goals from marks. He can crumb, and he has pace, but I don't think he is at the same level in these two attributes as the better small forwards in the competition. I also think he lacks that element of magic and X factor that the better small forwards have. We have marking power in our forward line but a genuine lack of pace and X factor at ground level. Betts, for me, would not fulfil this role. I must be thinking off a different Eddie Betts. Quote
Choko 493 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 Yeh, Eddie will be amazing when we kick the ball inside 50 for the 2nd time at the 30 minute mark of a quarter.... 1 Quote
Machsy 2,858 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 I don't think Betts works hard enough defensively. I think he is one of the players holding Carlton back, and we don't want that. 1 Quote
hardtack 11,107 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) On 30/07/2013 at 04:00, mjt said: Little Stuies what type of season has LeCras had. Considering he broke his arm early on and has played much of the season with it in a protective casing, while averaging 16 possessions, 5.1 marks (career best) and kicking 25 goals (just under 2 goals a game), I would say not too bad at all. Edited July 30, 2013 by hardtack 1 Quote
mjt 640 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 On 30/07/2013 at 05:51, hardtack said: Considering he broke his arm early on and has played much of the season with it in a protective casing, while averaging 16 possessions, 5.1 marks (career best) and kicking 25 goals (just under 2 goals a game), I would say not too bad at all.So similar stats to Howe. Quote
hardtack 11,107 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 On 30/07/2013 at 05:58, mjt said: So similar stats to Howe. Maybe, but Howe hasn't had the broken arm to contend with. Quote
mjt 640 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 The debate at the start was about injuries, read the posts properly. Quote
hardtack 11,107 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) On 30/07/2013 at 06:05, mjt said: The debate at the start was about injuries, read the posts properly. Yes, and the ACL did not affect his game... the broken arm did and yet he still managed reasonable stats considering. You asked the question of Stuie about what kind of season LeCras had... I decided it was worth pointing out. And considering you were rubbishing Stuie's understanding of AFL as he was suggesting he would rather LeCras over Betts, you might like to know that Betts 2013 stats are considerably worse than LeCras'... averaging 10 possessions, 2.5 marks and kicking 17 goals at an average of 1.5. Edited July 30, 2013 by hardtack 1 Quote
angrydee 842 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 LeCras for me. But it really is moot. Both will most likely stay where they are. 1 Quote
Tatu 416 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 600 is way to much for betts.... He's not that good... I'd rather Garlett over betts.... Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 get dayle garlett in the draft and use the 600 k on a mid 1 Quote
mjt 640 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) On 30/07/2013 at 06:12, hardtack said: Yes, and the ACL did not affect his game... the broken arm did and yet he still managed reasonable stats considering. You asked the question of Stuie about what kind of season LeCras had... I decided it was worth pointing out. And considering you were rubbishing Stuie's understanding of AFL as he was suggesting he would rather LeCras over Betts, you might like to know that Betts 2013 stats are considerably worse than LeCras'... averaging 10 possessions, 2.5 marks and kicking 17 goals at an average of 1.5. I was actually asking little Stuie what LeCras stats where for the season because I wasnt aware you simpleton . Edited July 30, 2013 by mjt Quote
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