Didn't watts play his first game back last week?

Didn't watts play his first game back last week?

Sinclair roughed him up before the bounce against Collingwood.Viney had his jaw broken right beside him and went back in to give something back. Jack stood there and watched. While its admirable that he's not a thug you cant be a big bloke taking time to develop and a softy at the same time

.He's 196 and 91 he should play like it. Johno Brown can wait but Jack should stop strutting Punt Road oval like he's Tarzan until he's ready to play like him on the MCG. The skills arnt the problem.....trade bait for mine

Just reading through this thread, the common consensus seems to be that most people are starting

to accept that JW mightn't be the player we've been hoping - and hanging onto hope he would be.

On the upside, JW skills are top shelf, but, he lacks desperation and intensity.

I was a very big Watts fan and thesedays I just accept the outcome for what it is, we were a bit stiff, he looked a freak.

So long as I dont have to hear anyone say that it doesn't matter where he was picked - treat him as any other player!

Well, it does matter where he is picked when every kid picked after him look to be 10 times more damaging than Jack.

Sinclair roughed him up before the bounce against Collingwood.Viney had his jaw broken right beside him and went back in to give something back. Jack stood there and watched. While its admirable that he's not a thug you cant be a big bloke taking time to develop and a softy at the same time

.He's 196 and 91 he should play like it. Johno Brown can wait but Jack should stop strutting Punt Road oval like he's Tarzan until he's ready to play like him on the MCG. The skills arnt the problem.....trade bait for mine

IRW, I was questioning the factual basis of one claim, not the basis of the entire weight of evidence. He's got great skills and it would be a pity to give him up: if he is not willing to go then he'll be a liabilty if we make a grandfinal.

IRW, I was questioning the factual basis of one claim, not the basis of the entire weight of evidence. He's got great skills and it would be a pity to give him up: if he is not willing to go then he'll be a liabilty if we make a grandfinal.

yea fair enough and it would be a pity to give up on him. I dont imagine they will this year either unless someone comes knocking(doubtful) or he can clinch an otherwise stalled super deal. But the clock is ticking to the next contract.....one would hope the alarm goes off soon because he's going to have to be very very very skilled to stay on playing like he does at present. It would be easier for him to contest 'ugly' occasionally and see if it works. I figured he was smart enough to get excited by the challenges Neeld would obviously throw at him and perhaps he is and it just hasnt shown yet. If nothing elze he'd be a better front man for the press than the other Jacks.His PR is as smooth as his skills and the club could use them.

I can tell you about a lad who had a reputation that fits the description BH gave of JW

He was tall for his age and as a junior he had the nickname "footsteps" and it was known that a hit behind the ears early in the game would see him shirk the contests the rest of the day He played soft in a hard mans game but was as ajunior but was still drafted to AFL

I only knew him on the basketball courts where his agility flexibility vision and anticipation were positively awe inspiring

Look up Bernie Quinlans record and see how he compares to JW

maybe even show that record to JW with BH comments coz I think the kid could learn.

A wise man once said " If you believe you can get the ball, just jump and have a crack at it!" Take note, Jack Watts, take note.

For those of you playing at home, Jeremy Howe said it about an hour ago on facebook.

I can tell you about a lad who had a reputation that fits the description BH gave of JW

He was tall for his age and as a junior he had the nickname "footsteps" and it was known that a hit behind the ears early in the game would see him shirk the contests the rest of the day He played soft in a hard mans game but was as ajunior but was still drafted to AFL

I only knew him on the basketball courts where his agility flexibility vision and anticipation were positively awe inspiring

Look up Bernie Quinlans record and see how he compares to JW

maybe even show that record to JW with BH comments coz I think the kid could learn.

Yes, I'm aware about Quinlan. Goodes was also considered soft, which is why he slipped in his draft despite kicking a bag in the TAC Cup grand final. It's definitely something that can be improved.

That said, I don't think they would have been coming from as far back. It's really up to twinkle toes to carve out the sort of career he wants. How hungry is he ? I wouldn't give him the hard time I do if I wasn't aware of his talent. I don't start threads on Bennell, Petterd, Bate, etc, because I wouldn't waste my time.

Was good tonight.

Wasn't he ?

Was good tonight.

Wasn't he ?

Actually I'd like to retract my earlier comments...

I don't even think he'll become a good player.

Let's face it. He's a big girl and the whole comp kinows it.

haha what a major spud! first 5 minutes of the game i saw him run away from the contest and i burst out laughing thinking what a joke.. brad green said recently that some players are made for afl and some aren't.. watts is one of them!

As Clint said: he should just go and play basketball. AFL is not for everyone, irrespective of talent.

Let's face it. He's a big girl and the whole comp kinows it.

did you see any of the footage on the footy show about the womans league grand final? some of those girls literally go in and hit the contast at an amazing force! i really wanna trade jack watts for one of those chicks atleast they know how to lay crunch tackle or a full force bump!

Agree this kid just isn't good enough. One trick pony. Don't care how well he kicks it, he has no other good attributes needed to become elite or even good. Soft as butter, no intensity, no second efforts.

Guy is a pea heart. Was prepared to support him up til now, but not any longer. So soft. Plays on his terms. Doesn't go when required. Doesn't bleed for the club. Massive disappointment.

did you see any of the footage on the footy show about the womans league grand final? some of those girls literally go in and hit the contast at an amazing force! i really wanna trade jack watts for one of those chicks atleast they know how to lay crunch tackle or a full force bump!

I saw that, and was seriously impressed. And yep, Watts has never been in a contest as hard as that vision. lol

Didn't see the game, but it doesn't sound good so maybe I won't try and defend him this week..

What didn't he do?

Didn't see or hear any of the game.

I've been a supporter but he lost me tonight looked like he didn't want to be there and didn't seem to care, pressured out of every contest. How effing disappointing, just another [censored] part of our [censored] year.

What didn't he do?

Didn't see or hear any of the game.

He didn't do anything that's the problem, he was pathetic.

What didn't he do?

Didn't see or hear any of the game.

Just think about the way guys like Lenny Hayes and Luke Hodge go about their football.

Now think of the exact opposite of that.

Best way I can think of to describe it to you.

Travis Johnstone vs Jack Watts.

take your pick?

He didn't do anything that's the problem, he was pathetic.

Players have bad games and I can forgive that. But he's probably the softest player I've ever seen.

Scrub "probably".

JACK WATTS

I also was on the Jack Watts # 1 pick bandwagon (ahead of Rich and Natanui). Though I had Watts 1, Natanui 2 and Hurley 3.

I saw a bright young man, with elite skills, aerobic ability and a young Nick Riewoldt type. I missed his lack of intensity or willingness to desire the AFL work ethic. In under age footy, his skills and talent got him ahead. Not in AFL firsts.

He needs:

- a bit more raw mongrel

- 3 months in the gym, on protein powder. Forget the 5 kms run. Gym sessions twice a day.

- desire and skills to be executed without laziness.

At the moment he is Cale Morton like. A floating half back, with no accountability and unable to compete man on man. Sure he outmarked Jared Petrenko who is 8 inches shorter.

No trade yet, but 2013 MUST BE A HUGE YEAR.

AFL scouts were concerned about his appetite for the heavy stuff.

Should he play next year?

It is a question that will be asked all summer.

But our season starts on tuesday.

Anymore years like '12 & this club will fade away.