Now this ... is the kind of footballer we want our Trengoves and our Watts' to become.

Still tearing it up. Unrestricted free agent in 2013.

Agree. But it would never ever happen.

Agree. I reckon he would add more value than BJ even though he is older by a few years.

A playing/coaching role like Junior or Power at the Giants would be very appealing.

As a coach??

Absolutely..

As a coach??

Absolutely..

Check out his 2012 numbers ... http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=787

The guy is still producing week-in week-out. Absolute warrior. I'd offer him a two-year playing contract plus a two year assistant coaching deal.

No hesitation.

I wouldn't be disappointed if we went after Black either.

He'll be 33 years old round 1 next year.

Type of player needed? Of course.

Precisely the player needed? Definitely not.

No way he would leave the Saints.

I love how you think we should get Lenny, presumably because of his skills and values, and yet that would involve leaving the club he has given his heart and soul to and coming to us.

He'll be 33 years old round 1 next year.

Type of player needed? Of course.

Precisely the player needed? Definitely not.

Spot on. If he was 5 years younger, definitely.

He need his type, but not Lenny Hayes as such.

Don't want sound like a wet blanket, but why even bother starting these sort of threads?

I love how you think we should get Lenny, presumably because of his skills and values, and yet that would involve leaving the club he has given his heart and soul to and coming to us.

Don't want sound like a wet blanket, but why even bother starting these sort of threads?

Umm, what makes Lenny Hayes "heart and soul values" any different from Goddards? Or from Chad Cornes' or Luke Power's or Brett Kirk's?

Nothing. Just degrees of perception.

It would be a bold move, but not an unattractive one to offer Lenny Hayes a 4-year playing/coach type role in the twighlight of his career. Along with Trengove, Watts and co, we are in all likelihood about to draft a couple of bluechip young midfielders in the November draft. What an exciting challenge it would be for him to work on-field with these kids for a couple of years and then continue on with a coaching apprenticeship once he hangs up the boots.

Just as exciting as being at GWS or GCS and he wouldn't have to move interstate!

You've got to be in it to win it ... and in an 18-team compeition you've most certainly got to start thinking outside of the square. And less like a wet blanket.

Would love him for a couple of years.

Great of the game.

Surely the Saints will give him enough to get him around again?

Just as exciting as being at GWS or GCS and he wouldn't have to move interstate!

He is from Sydney originally.

We should get Gary Ablett too.

Maybe Buddy, although I'm worried about his off field antics, so I probably wouldn't bother.

What's Adam Goodes doing next year?

Would love him for a couple of years.

Great of the game.

Surely the Saints will give him enough to get him around again?

No doubt, but would they offer him a further two years of guaranteed employment?

Brian Royal's contract is up if I'm not mistaken. A Lenny Hayes could come and take on that position in a dual-type playing/midfield coach role over a four-year period.

Definitely food for thought. Imagine the impact in club culture and developing our leaders.

Players of the ilk of Lenny Hayes are very proud individuals and there are reasons they elevate themselves above 95% of their peers. Lenny Hayes will always want to remain a one club player and that's the way it should be.

Even though I find the notion of recruiting a player that will be 33 next year ridiculous, more to the point I'd hate to see Lenny wearing any other club's colours. However it won't be an issue anyone will have to confront.

EDIT: I need to clarify something. If Lenny Hayes was at odds with his club and wanted to play on and had the chance to go to a club that was a genuine premiership threat I'd be very surprised, but I suppose one could understand it.

Would love him, but there's almost no chance.

However, as we are all quantum physicists here, we should know that nothing is impossible.....

_{Won't happen but I am happy to profess my manlove for him.}

5 years ago Lenny Hayes would have been awesome, now it just sounds like a Chapman type recruitment scenario. Neither player would want to come here and why would want either one, we'd may as well persuade Green into another year that was the case. A no from me.